[jimshaf921]

Fantastic Thread!! I love all the knowledge.
Can you please tell me where these chips would fall? I know the $.50 chips is from there "value line", but I'm not sure of the others. S2?

[tomb1]

Jim, as far as those Jack Niemann chips....

The 50¢ chip is an example of a low-priced line I didn't discuss in this thread. They are simple, solid-color chips with a suits-type mold and usually hot-stamped for roulette use or as a low denom chip, as here.




Moving up in price from the hot stamps, there is a "24-groove" line of roulette chips (that used to be called R4). It's a plain mold with grooves emanating from the center to the edge, usually with 12 very small white edge "spots" molded in. There is a nice printed inlay, often just a simple stock drawing, though many casinos get them custom-printed as roulette chips and a letter designating which table. These are made from a composite material that's like the S2 chips, but maybe a little softer feel. These play and shuffle great!




But the $1, $5 and $25 Niemann chips are not the same as those roulette chips. I have a chip like those, and they are a strange combination.

First, the mold design is definitely from the options available only as S2-type molds -- that's the key feature. Next, the size of the inlay and the 4-color printing are also S2 features. My chip is very light (8.25 g), lighter than the unslugged S2s but al ittle more than the weight of the roulettes. But the distinctive 24 grooves in the mold make this a hybrid chip IMO. I don't know if it was an early model for the S2 chips and they used the 24-groove mold for a time, but I don't think these are made this way any more.

So I would call them S2-type chips. But I'll see if I can find out anything else.

[jimshaf921]

Originally Posted by tomb1

Jim, as far as those Jack Niemann chips....

The 50¢ chip is an example of a low-priced line I didn't discuss in this thread. They are simple, solid-color chips with a suits-type mold and usually hot-stamped for roulette use or as a low denom chip, as here.




Moving up in price from the hot stamps, there is a "24-groove" line of roulette chips (that used to be called R4). It's a plain mold with grooves emanating from the center to the edge, usually with 12 very small white edge "spots" molded in. There is a nice printed inlay, often just a simple stock drawing, though many casinos get them custom-printed as roulette chips and a letter designating which table. These are made from a composite material that's like the S2 chips, but maybe a little softer feel. These play and shuffle great!




But the $1, $5 and $25 Niemann chips are not the same as those roulette chips. I have a chip like those, and they are a strange combination.

First, the mold design is definitely from the options available only as S2-type molds -- that's the key feature. Next, the size of the inlay and the 4-color printing are also S2 features. My chip is very light (8.25 g), lighter than the unslugged S2s but al ittle more than the weight of the roulettes. But the distinctive 24 grooves in the mold make this a hybrid chip IMO. I don't know if it was an early model for the S2 chips and they used the 24-groove mold for a time, but I don't think these are made this way any more.

So I would call them S2-type chips. But I'll see if I can find out anything else.

Thanks, They are lighter than the other S2 chips I have. Jim

[roolife]

i wish i found this thread before reading warewulf's poll about V7 vs. V6. thanks for all the clarification. i have the dodge city and caesars at sea chips and it's nice to know the difference.

[Captaincuba]

Awesome read!

So let me get this straight:

Caesars's at Sea = WSOP?

And now that we have a comparison:

Where would we rank the Caesar's chips against TH&C Casino Paulsons, and say for example Borgata Casino?

Thanks,

CC

[tomb1]

Originally Posted by Captaincuba

So let me get this straight:

Caesars's at Sea = WSOP?

Yes, same basic chip.

Originally Posted by Captaincuba

And now that we have a comparison:

Where would we rank the Caesar's chips against TH&C Casino Paulsons, and say for example Borgata Casino?

Well, this is personal preference. I have always liked BJ chips, but clay chips (TH&C Casino Paulsons) are my favorites. But it's apples vs. oranges to me, they're a very different feel.

As far as the Borgata V7 vs. WSOPs, that's another personal choice. The WSOPs shuffle much better, but the V7 chips are unique and very classy-feeling. Granny Smith apples vs. Red Delicious.

[warewulf]

Originally Posted by roolife

i wish i found this thread before reading warewulf's poll about V7 vs. V6. thanks for all the clarification. i have the dodge city and caesars at sea chips and it's nice to know the difference.

Yeah, I posted that thread thinking the Ceasers were v6. Didn't know anything about the S line!

All I know is I've played many games with the v7's at Commerce and the Bicycle Club and can't stand those chips. When I first handled the Ceaser's chips, I liked them instantly.

Excellent info in this thread Tomb! Nice work!

[tomb1]

Originally Posted by warewulf

Yeah, I posted that thread thinking the Ceasers were v6. Didn't know anything about the S line!

Me, too. GPI doesn't do a good job of keeping their web site or online brochures up to date. (They don't need to.) The S2 line has been in the US for several years but there's never been any mention of it publicly.

[Sir Flopalot]

Wow...just stumbled across this great thread! Awesome info w/answers for every question I ever had re: BJ chips!

[joepro]

Wow, great thread, thanks for reviving this, great info. I'm doing a set of bj replicas, all ceramic, but I'm thinking the hybrids from palm may be the way to go.