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05-08-2007, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Gaming Ore  Tell me, in the V6 family, the V6 plastic and the V11 (CIC) plastic are two different componds, right?
Jim (Gaming Ore) Follis | Something GPI will not talk about openly is their secret recipe (like Colonel Sanders' "11 herbs and spices"). That goes for their Paulson clay recipe as well as the Bud Jones recipe. And I suspect that the BJ compounds might have changed over the years, based only on the chips I have felt and their ages.
So I don't know the answer to your question. The latest V6 decal chips like the Isle of Capri-Biloxi feel different from most of the CICs, so I'd lean toward a slightly different formulation. But I don't really know if it's the compound or the finishing or something else. And the V6 compounds generally feel harder to me than the V7s. |
05-08-2007, 10:58 PM
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tomb1, that was an excellent read for me. It cleared up a lot of confusing questions I had regarding the WSOP and the recent release of the Ceasars Palace at Sea chips. The info also validates for me that Bud Jones V7 are top notch, quality chips. Thanks. |
05-08-2007, 11:21 PM
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Thanks for such an informative post. Never realized they were all so different. |
05-08-2007, 11:46 PM
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Tom,
AGAIN, an excellent post! Kudos!
In my scan I believe the Stardust chip is a V11 from the V6 Family, but the Colorado Belle chip is not. However, they are both made of a harder plastic, and the edges are as sharp as any brand new, uncirculated Paul-Son clay composition chip!
The reason I say the Colorado Belle chip is not a V11, is because it is assembled differently. I've not seen a V11 opened up, but do you know if the two CICs are attached (welded or glued) back-to-back, or are they two separate coins?
In the case of the Colorado Belle, they two separate coins. By looking at the V11, it looks like the CICs are molded into the plastic, but for the Colorado Belle the CICs are inserted into the center and a plastic retaining ring is used to hold the CICs in. This of course significantly changes the manufacturing process!
Anyway, where does the Colorado Belle type chip fit in? (If you know.) 
Thanks,
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05-09-2007, 01:39 AM
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Tomb1, thanks for clearing all this up. Very informative!
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05-09-2007, 03:18 AM
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Give THE MAN (tomb1) some chips!!!
Great review and photos! |
05-09-2007, 03:43 PM
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| | | Re: Explanation of Bud Jones chip styles -- V7, V6, S2
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Originally Posted by Gaming Ore Tom,
In my scan I believe the Stardust chip is a V11 from the V6 Family, but the Colorado Belle chip is not. However, they are both made of a harder plastic, and the edges are as sharp as any brand new, uncirculated Paul-Son clay composition chip!
The reason I say the Colorado Belle chip is not a V11, is because it is assembled differently. I've not seen a V11 opened up, but do you know if the two CICs are attached (welded or glued) back-to-back, or are they two separate coins?
In the case of the Colorado Belle, they two separate coins. By looking at the V11, it looks like the CICs are molded into the plastic, but for the Colorado Belle the CICs are inserted into the center and a plastic retaining ring is used to hold the CICs in. This of course significantly changes the manufacturing process!
Anyway, where does the Colorado Belle type chip fit in? (If you know.)Thanks,
J(GO)F | All the CIC chips I have seen opened up have two separate stamped coins. (But I have never cracked open any of the real old original BJ chips, which I've heard had one solid coin.) The two coins don't seem to be welded or glued together, but just sit very tight in the mold perfectly.
The Stardust chip certainly looks like a V6-type mold, so it would be a V11. Here it is cracked open: 
The Colorado Belle chip has the V7 mold design, so it would appear to be a V10 chip. As far as the edges, the V7 family of chips can be finished with a variety of square or beveled edges. I've seen them all the way from completely sharp/square like you describe, to slightly rounded, to a very fancy chamfered finish. So I don't know if the CIC chips are always square or could be more beveled if the casino requested.
Here is a picture Greg Cagle took of two broken chips, and it looks like the Belle has 2 separate brass coins:   |
05-09-2007, 03:48 PM
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05-09-2007, 06:08 PM
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05-09-2007, 07:02 PM
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| | | Re: Explanation of Bud Jones chip styles -- V7, V6, S2
Outstanding post Tomb! 
That clearly explains the difference in the various BJ chips on the market these days.
There is much wanton chip destruction in this thread. There should be a warning in the title.
Much + rep for you Tomb. 
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