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I am reading HOH 2 now -- only up to the bluffing chapter. Q and M, you say? Hmmm...
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I don't really have any major disagreements with either book, I just feel like it's way beyond the scope of the main audience, that is, internet players who usually play in sit n' gos.
OK, first off you cannot expect a single book (or series of books) to be directly applicable to every kind of NLHE game out there. I do not play online, only home games with friends, and after reading HOH my initial reaction was that none of that information would help me in my home games.

The reason is that a lot of the more subtle moves such as continuation/probe/value bets go under the radar of the beginners at my home games; they do not factor position into the equation nor do they consider pot odds or any other kind of strategy. This makes it frustrating at the best of times, because all the information in HOH is lost on them.

But the secret is how to apply the knowledge in the book to the kind of game you play. You may not be able to factor it down to a set of mechanical actions given a specific set of preconditions, but I am certain you kind find at least a few good points that will serve you will on satellites, SNG's, freerolls, whatever.

Maybe the hype surrounding the HOH books had you expecting a get rich quick type of transformation in your game, or you already have learned many of the smaller points through experience so it is a bit disappointing? I do not know, I just know it has helped me learn more about the game even though my results are opposite of VAR's: before HOH I had won every second home game (out of 6 games), and always made the final table. After HOH I have not made a final table since (out of 3 games), so while I am still operating from my 'bankroll' I am still struggling with applying the material to the home game with plenty of calling stations and garbage men.
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I was definitely NOT expecting this book to get me rich quick. But even in higher buy-in MTTs where I've used a lot from these books, I haven't managed to even sniff a final table. I just think that being born with great poker instincts or developing them through experience is what's necessary to be a good tournament player... the concepts from these books are a nice crutch, but they can't replace it.
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