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Old 09-19-2007, 07:25 PM
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Poboy, there is no such thing as a big stack bullying a small stack. You can't bet what the opponent does not have. That is a common misconception.
I think the point here, as you reference, is the impact on implied odds. If its a 1/2 game and I have $300 and a tighter big stack throws in a $40 raise, can I call with 99 now? I'm guessing I'm at best a coinflip and possibly dominated. Can I call here for set value? I pretty much have to make sure I get it all-in just to justify the call. Lower his raise to $20 and its easier to justify a call now. I would consider this bullying as it basically narrows the range of hands a SS can play. Now obviously playing a looser, large stack is a different issue.
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Poboy, there is no such thing as a big stack bullying a small stack. You can't bet what the opponent does not have. That is a common misconception. I welcome people who might want to lower their standards and play more hands aggressively with me because they have more chips than me. They have more chips on the table, but those extra chips are totally irrelevant.
Use Hachkc's example. You (with $200) have 99 in a 2/4 game. A big stack raises to 10bb's. What do you do?

Short stack strategy is a tough one to deal with when they are the aggressor, no argument there. But there are a lot of hands where the big stack can raise enough preflop to force laydowns and deny implied odds.


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Sticking in the big raise damages the implied odds for people who may want to flop sets, 2 pair, etc. It is all about SPR. A raise 4-5x a standard raise will shrink the SPRs, even if they are still somewhat large after the flop.
Did you read what I wrote? If, as you said, you have two stacks that are 2,000bbs ($4K in 1/2 in your post), how much of a raise preflop would stack A have to put in to affect the implied odds of stack B?
Exmaple: two $4K stacks at 1/2, in the SB and BB. folds to SB, who limps. BB raises to 9 more bbs to 10. What is the SPR if the SB calls?
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