Poker Chip Forums-ChipTalk.net
Cara Gail's - Get the Best!
Cara Gail's - Get the Best!
Home Classifieds Site Tools User Tools Quick Links Help
Go Back   Poker Chip Forums-ChipTalk.net > Home Game Advice > Poker Gear > Poker Books
User Name
Password Register

» Navigation Menu
ChipTalk Forums
Poker Chips!
Custom Chips
Collector's Corner
Group Buys
Reviews
Articles
Market Place
Home Game Advice
Poker Strategy
General Poker
Non-Poker Topics

Home Poker Advice
Home Poker Rules
Tournament Structures
Chip Breakdowns
Poker Gear
Listings and Leagues
Poker and the LAW
Dealer's Choice Games
Stories and Bad Beats
General Discussion
Dead Button Tool
Robert’s Rules
Poker Tables
Get Chip Samples
Poker Chip Reviews
Poker Gear Reviews
Chip Breakdown Calc

ChipTalk Tools
Poker Chip Factory
Poker Classifieds
Hand Converter
Chip Breakdown Calc
Dead Button Tool
ChipTalk Store by HPC
ChipTalk GiftShop
vBux Store
Robert’s Rules
Tourney Password
Vector Playing Cards
CC-GTCC Application
Donate to ChipTalk

Contact Us
Staff
Contact Us
Product Review Rqst
Link to Us
Advertise with Us
» Latest Articles
Title, Username, & Date
Palm Imports Custom Plastic...
whataboutj
08-12-2008 05:54 PM
The Original Poker Chip...
TenPercenter
04-13-2008 11:45 AM
ZERO - Plastic Playing Cards...
Ligarius
03-25-2008 08:59 AM
Imperial Palace Card Room...
Aquaman H20
03-06-2008 12:58 PM
Nexgen (NEW) Lucky Bees Poker...
Stevo
03-04-2008 10:26 AM
ASM 44mm Poker Chip Review
Matthew
01-31-2008 09:44 AM
Binions Poker Room Review
FlopZnuts
01-27-2008 09:51 PM
Coconut Tree Poker Chip Review
Turner Profit
01-26-2008 12:07 AM
Big Stack Strategy: Avoiding...
jojobinks
01-08-2008 02:21 PM
Player's Cruise on Carnival...
jamby
01-05-2008 03:36 PM
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)     Top 
Old 03-14-2007, 10:08 AM
BrettButter's Avatar
BrettButter BrettButter is offline
Faux Clay Nation
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Parma, Ohio
Posts: 1,384
Chips: 529
Rating: 0% (0)
Which book?

I have a friend who is starting to get really into poker. He bought my table, my old dice chips, and is starting to host games at his house.

He's expressed a lot of interest in getting better at poker, and wants to start reading some books. His 17th birthday is coming up, and I want to get him a book. I was looking for something that isn't terribly complex, that would be a good book to start with. He's got schoolwork and a ton of other stuff going on, so I don't want to overwhelm him and distract him from the important stuff in life.

He plays NLHE Tournaments, with side cash games of .10/.25. He doesn't like limit games, but plays a tiny bit of PLO in side games as well.

I'd love to get opinions on what the best book would be to get him started. Any help is appreciated, thank you!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Buy Poker Chips Online
  #2 (permalink)     Top 
Old 03-14-2007, 10:17 AM
rami's Avatar
rami rami is offline
Short Stack
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 13
Chips: 9
Rating: 0% (0)
Re: Which book?

http://www.amazon.com/Phil-Gordons-L.../dp/1416903674

and after that one maybe something more advanced - sklansky and/or harrington
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)     Top 
Old 03-14-2007, 10:27 AM
littlebu's Avatar
littlebu littlebu is offline
LNPT Playa!
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ohio
Age: 26
Posts: 2,413
Chips: 520
Rating: 100% (1)
Send a message via Yahoo to littlebu
Re: Which book?

I think the Harrington series would be the most beneficial to him. Alot of the things in there can be applied to cash games as well.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)     Top 
Old 03-14-2007, 10:54 AM
the3rd's Avatar
the3rd the3rd is offline
World Series Champ
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Age: 31
Posts: 3,263
Chips: 1,712
Rating: 0% (0)
Re: Which book?

I suggest a book dedicated to HE. The only valuable book that covers HE and PLO is Super System 2. Let your friend buy a Omaha book down the road. I think the best beginner LIMIT HE book is Winning Low Limit Holdem, 3rd edition, by Lee Jones. The newest Sklansky book on NL is probably too advanced. I'd go with Rami's or littlebu's suggestion.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)     Top 
Old 03-14-2007, 11:01 AM
jojobinks's Avatar
jojobinks jojobinks is offline
Poker Nerd (and Admin)
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: bottom pair and a flush draw
Age: 35
Posts: 10,596
Chips: 17,166
Rating: 100% (4)
Send a message via AIM to jojobinks Send a message via MSN to jojobinks Send a message via Yahoo to jojobinks
Re: Which book?

people recommend the green book, but i think it's rank.

HOH1 is the best for beginners. it presents a whole strategy (as opposed to fractured bits) in a way that's palatable, understandable and just a little more credible than the other book.

also, it has HOH2 to go with it, which is the nutz.
__________________
read my poker blog: confessions of a microdonk
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)     Top 
Old 03-14-2007, 11:26 AM
TheMightyJim2k's Avatar
TheMightyJim2k TheMightyJim2k is offline
ChipTalk.net Article Writer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Boston
Age: 25
Posts: 2,251
Chips: 5,912
Rating: 0% (0)
Send a message via AIM to TheMightyJim2k Send a message via Yahoo to TheMightyJim2k
Re: Which book?

HOH1 is the way to go if he play's tournies, because the basic strategy that is covers is also applicable to cash games for beginners. My guess is that the .1/.25 side games play shortstacked a lot (I used to play in very similar games in college all the time) with a lot of players having $10 or less on the table. If this is the case the HOH1 is even more applicable because the game conditions make it play more like the middle stages of a tourney and less like the deepstack cash games that much of Super System and NLHTP are beneficial for.

Once he has a chance to figure out the HOH stuff he should definitely pick up NLHTP. I dont play much NL but I'm reading it anyway, and it is far and away the best dissection of the game I've ever read.

One last thing....the first thing I ever read was Super System, and I applied Brunson's strategy to my cash game. I mopped up the competition pretty much every night. Granted most of the players I was up against weren't great, but if your opponents play somewhat weak-predictable at all, and the stacks are bigger than 40bb, it is very applicable.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)     Top 
Old 03-14-2007, 11:31 AM
FL70's Avatar
FL70 FL70 is offline
Final Table
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Maryland
Age: 37
Posts: 840
Chips: 1,375
Rating: 0% (0)
Re: Which book?

Another vote for Harrington 1 & 2.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)     Top 
Old 03-14-2007, 11:35 AM
BrettButter's Avatar
BrettButter BrettButter is offline
Faux Clay Nation
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Parma, Ohio
Posts: 1,384
Chips: 529
Rating: 0% (0)
Re: Which book?

The first book I read was Super System I as well, and I already had a pretty good understanding of the game when I read it.

I've read a ton of books, but for the life of me couldn't pick the one that would be the best when just starting. I started right at the top, then just kind of surrounded myself with any book I could find about poker. HOH was actually one of my later reads, but not because of content, it just took me a little longer to get it.

People love buying in that .10/.25 game for $5.

I ordered NLHTP, because when I went to read it, I found out that I didn't have it. I swear I bought it somewhere down the line, but I guess not. That's next on my list of things to read. I'm probably going to start Lindgren's book today, and just finished Negreanu's and Shulman's "Tips" books. I gave him Shulman's book to read, because it's basically just a complete starting point, explaining all of the basic crap that he probably knows, but can't hurt to go over. I emphasized how important it was to start with basics before moving up to advanced strategy.

He refused to read Small Stakes Hold'Em, due to not playing limit. I kept pushing for him to read it, but he won't do it. He can't apply any of the things to NL he says.

I'm a horribly biased person, but I just flat out don't like Gordon's books.

Looks like HOH1 is the book for me to get him. Thanks for all the help guys
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)     Top 
Old 03-14-2007, 11:40 AM
yeltzen yeltzen is offline
World Series Champ
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,099
Chips: 7,134
Rating: 0% (0)
Re: Which book?

Get him Theory of Poker so he can learn the basic concepts like pot odds, implied odds, etc, and then tell him to play a ton. Tell him to guess people's hands as they're being played.

That's what I wish I would have done. I've read too many books now, and I rely on too many rules to be a good poker player. I wish I could erase everything I've learned, re-learn poker theory, and learn everything else just from playing. That's just my opinion, though.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)     Top 
Old 03-14-2007, 11:43 AM
TheMightyJim2k's Avatar
TheMightyJim2k TheMightyJim2k is offline
ChipTalk.net Article Writer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Boston
Age: 25
Posts: 2,251
Chips: 5,912
Rating: 0% (0)
Send a message via AIM to TheMightyJim2k Send a message via Yahoo to TheMightyJim2k
Re: Which book?

If you don't play limit in casinos or at micro-limits online there is pretty much no reason to read Small Stakes by Miller. I am a huge advocate of the book, but I personally can't use it anymore unless I am going to play at a casino. The online games are too tough and I play shorthanded, and his book definitely isnt for that.

speaking of tough games....new book coming out by stoxtrader about playing in tough limit hold'em games. It looks really really hawt so I might have to start a thread about that....hmmm.....
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

vBClassified Featured Listings
Paulson Pharaohs / Plaques, Winner Club, ASM ..,
Matsui ZENS! Tournament set for sale



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Chips Per Thread View: 0
Chips Per Thread: 3
Chips Per Reply: 1

» eBay Poker Chip Search
» Sponsors
Sponsor Forum!
ChipDesigns.eu makes special offers to ChipTalk.net members.

The perfect way to display your poker chip collection!

Specializing in high quality world class poker tables & casino gaming equipment

Home Poker Tour is the leading poker league management website online.

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0 RC2
JT Casino Games is your stop for everything poker and casino related. Click here for your favorite eBay items Nevada Jacks - Custom and Casino Poker Chips Play online and get FREE GEAR! High end chips, cards, more!

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:36 AM.


Sitemap: All, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27
28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by NuWiki v1.3 RC1 Copyright ©2006-2007, NuHit, LLC
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0