[TheMightyJim2k]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

I puchased this book and I HATE IT!! I think its one of the worst books out there. If you want to listen to story time waste $30 and a few hours of your life go ahead. I realise there are some things to be learned from this book. BUt if you want some bang for your $$ Stay away!!

super system 2 is worth the money, but only if you take advantage of all of the sections. O/8, Stud H/L, and Triple Draw are all pretty good, and the LHEsection isn't terrible. I will say that the first strategy book that I ever got was the original SS, and the NL section definitely elevated my game as a green rookie. I went from being a pretty breakeven occasional winner in my home game in college, to basically dominating it pretty much every night. The internet is an entirely different beast though, and more advanced strategy is definitely needed for the tougher games you are likely to face.

[yeltzen]

Almost everyone that plays NL games now is aggressive, so obviously the NL section of SS isn't going to blow you away. When it was written, it was revolutionary. Everyone played the nuts, and it taught you how to take advantage of that. Now, people play the 18th nuts like it's the nuts, so trying to play SS in those games will get you killed.

People will buy a book like SSH 10 years from now and say the same stuff about it that we're saying about SS. Probably the same with the upcoming NL book from 2+2, depending on what exactly is in it. A book can only be "revolutionary" until everyone knows about it.

Unless it's a really, really broad book, like TOP.

Anyways, there aren't many good books for NL cash games. The new 2+2 NL book is probably the best bet, since it covers smaller stakes games. I've read NLTAP and I just don't think it's worth the brain power if you're going to play in a $25NL game, unless you absolutely have to know everything about the theory behind the game. Phil Gordon's books are decent, light reading if you're playing in small stakes games.

[mrpinkmcpink]

I'd recommend NLHTAP and also Reuben and Ciaffones' (?spelling?) PL and NL Poker (although it deals with PL Omaha and Stud too).

Miller's new 2+2 book looks very promising.

You can learn a lot just by hanging around on 2+2 as long as you pick up on the people who are worth listening to.