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View Poll Results: what concepts should be discussed before we start discussion of NLHE:TP | |
Pot odds
|    | 1 | 6.25% | |
Implied odds
|    | 9 | 56.25% | |
Why is position so important?
|    | 1 | 6.25% | |
Semi-bluff
|    | 0 | 0% | |
Expected value
|    | 8 | 50.00% | |
Other things...post in thread
|    | 1 | 6.25% |
07-10-2006, 01:25 PM
|  | Poker Nerd (and Admin) | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bottom pair and a flush draw Age: 35
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| | | Pre-NLHE:TP discussion
On monday, 7/17, we'll fire up the CT discussion machine to discuss the new Slansky-miller book. here's a tip: it's not an easy book. bolgenmod has a post a-brewin including the reading schedule.
here's my question: what sort of things would you guys like to discuss to get us ready for the book? what poker concepts / NL concepts do you feel shaky with? what do you feel you need to sort through?
i think i'll add a poll...let's see how that works |
07-10-2006, 01:43 PM
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| | | EV/implied odds
I haven't read this book, but I always see your posts about EV. I understand the importance of position, pot odds, and the other concepts, but what exactly are EV and implied odds?
If you consider yourself a semi-advanced to advanced player, and you knows odds and percentages to make your hand, is knowing EV going to give you any edge? |
07-10-2006, 02:00 PM
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| | | Re: Pre-NLHE:TP discussion
I feel like I have a decent understanding of everything except EV. I think I know what it is and how to calculate it, but I guess as it relates to a moment in the game, I don't know that I ever identify things as +/- EV. |
07-10-2006, 03:14 PM
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| | | Re: Pre-NLHE:TP discussion
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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff I feel like I have a decent understanding of everything except EV. I think I know what it is and how to calculate it, but I guess as it relates to a moment in the game, I don't know that I ever identify things as +/- EV. | Hopefully there are no stupid questions, but I have no idea what you guys are talking about when EV+/- is spoken of......what is it man! 
mmmmmmm lets see, I just voted on the poll, could it be EXPECTED VALUE?....I would like to read disscusions on this |
07-10-2006, 03:39 PM
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| | | Re: Pre-NLHE:TP discussion
I voted for implied odds as I always seem to err on the high side when trying to figure out how much I can get out of someone when I hit my hand. |
07-10-2006, 03:43 PM
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| | | Re: Pre-NLHE:TP discussion
How to play against donkey's who raise and or call every bet to the river when drawing nearly dead. |
07-10-2006, 03:46 PM
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| | | Re: Pre-NLHE:TP discussion
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Originally Posted by noelsarchs How to play against donkey's who raise and or call every bet to the river when drawing nearly dead. | value bet more frequently. bluff never. also, see pages 180-191 of NLHE:TP, or all of sshe. |
07-10-2006, 07:06 PM
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| | | Re: Pre-NLHE:TP discussion
Wow, I'm surprised they're many responses for EV and implied odds. (Not that there's anything wrong with that).
Those two are definitely critical/fundamental concepts that should be understood before discussing the book. I would have never thought to pre-discuss these. Great idea and thread Jojo. |
07-10-2006, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jojobinks value bet more frequently. bluff never. also, see pages 180-191 of NLHE:TP, or all of sshe. | Excuse me for being illiterate, but could you expand the titles for me? |
07-10-2006, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by noelsarchs Excuse me for being illiterate, but could you expand the titles for me? | no limit holdem theory and practice
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