Which is a better book

BettorGolfer · #11 (**permalink**) 05-25-2006, 05:42 PM

I guess I just need to play more limit hold em. I've been playing a lot of pot limit, which of course is different. I just have a hard time concentrating when I read Sklansky/Miller. I tried to use the techniques that I had semi-learned in SSHE in a 2-4 six person game on PP and went through $50 in about 20 hands. Never won a pot, and started w/ great cards also, just got outdrawn. Oh well. just need to play it more I think.

I do find Jones a little more down to earth, but I'm probably not realizing the differences between the two books: beginner vs. THE BIBLE

smoore · #12 (**permalink**) 05-26-2006, 01:14 PM

$50 is only 12.5BB at 2/4. I've lost that in a hand

I would recommend learning limit holdem in full ring games, the variance in 6max is insane. I dropped 80BB the other night over 1k hands. Sucks, but it happens. As I've never read Jones' book I really can't comment on it but I've *heard* that it's "weak-tight". What this means is that Jones style is giving up a little edge in order to keep beginners out of serious trouble. When I cap an OESFD on the flop in 6max, I do it for a few reasons but I *understand* why I'm doing it, I'm not just doing it robotically. # of players in the pot, strength of said players and my position relative to them are the determining factors of if I want to 3bet/cap or just call. 6max is a game of pushing the smallest of edges as hard as you (sanely) can.

As others here have said, I don't think you'll go wrong learning Jones' style. It's aimed towards limit beginners and will give you a solid foundation. SSHE's style doesn't even really work to well in the tight full ring games we're finding today but as you make the transition to 6max you'll get torn up if you are at all "weak-tight". Just the blinds are going to kill you.

Poboy · #13 (**permalink**) 05-26-2006, 05:27 PM

Yeah, six max is no place for a limit beginner. And I agree, at six max -12.5 BB is nothing. Yesterday I lost 25BB in an hour to 2nd best hand-itis. Try and find some loose full tables even if you have to drop pretty low, to practice SSHE.

For me, I liken the books to how I learned to draw. First you learn the rules (Jones), then you break them with intent, not by accident (Miller).