[DiceCaller]

UPDATE (5/26): Round 3 of the Design Contest is complete! Voting for the Final Round has begun and will continue thru May 31.
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/group-...round-4-a.html

For the history of this project you can look back on the original threads;
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/palmim...ion-chips.html
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/palmim...round-one.html
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/palmim...round-2-a.html

The short version is Joe at Palm Imports will let us steal his Compression Clay Great Wall chips (also known as Wallsons) for just 30¢ each! The only catch is that we have to steal 50,000 of them. To help make this project a success, Joe is also sponsoring a design contest to come up with a label that will appeal to enough people to make this happen.

Rounds 1,2 and 3 got us some great designs that you can see below and in the Design Contest poll thread http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/group-...round-4-a.html . We will continue thru the final round in a 4 – 2 – WIN series of eliminations.


The set will consist of the following denominations; .25, 1, 5, 10, 25, 100, 500, 1000, 5000, and a NCV. There will be one more chip (Chocolate / Brown) available in the future though it will most likely not be part of this Group Buy.

There is currently a heated debate as to whether the design offered by Garyon should be themed or generic. This can be viewed here;
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/group-...e-generic.html

UPDATE (5/30): The last and final poll has begun! This will help to determine the text on Garyon's design;http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/group-buy-polls/49922-30-compression-clay-pi-final-last-poll-text.html


Joe: Is it possible to get a scan or at least the color / edgespot info on the Chocolate Chip? It is understood that it will most likely will not be available for this group buy, but it will be available soon and its inclusion in the design may help influence and increase orders.

Everyone: Thank you for your continued participation and strong support and encouragement of our designers! While the designers have done a great job so far, if you have specific desires final generic text, this is the time and place to speak up about them.

Running this GB has been a first for me, I have learned a lot and tried to keep the mistakes to a minimum. I appreciate all the strong support and encouragement that I have received.

Thank you,
Shane

[DiceCaller]

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Garyon

[DiceCaller]

In the interest poll that began this project Joe received commitments to purchase over 40,000 chips. If we eliminate the “depending upon the final design” qualifiers, the actual commitment is for less than 10,000. We have an amazing start thanks to the hard work of all our designers but this is not yet a done deal.

We each have an “ideal” set (I would love to have a 10¢ and a 10 chip for my Dealer’s Choice ‘Big Money’ games) but the purpose of this project is to design a set that will sell 50,000 chips. I will never discourage “what I would like” posts but please attempt to think of “what would sell the most chips”.

To help ‘guide’ the discussion, here are some suggestions;

Should this be;

Complete Set (one or two fractional and one or two large value chips)
Cash Set (lots of fractionals and lower value chips)
Tournament Set (lots of higher value chips)

The consensus seems to be towards a “Complete Set” but the discussion is still open in this regard. The consensus also seems to be for no denomination on the (Dollar) chips.
Things appear not so certain for the Fractional (s).
Should Fractional chip (s) be;

0.25
25¢
25c
¼
Quarter
No Fractionals

High denominations can be;

Traditional (500, 1000, 5000)
'Modern' Tournament (500, 2000 or 2500, 10000)

If we start with; 25c, 1, 5, 25, 100, 500, 1000, 5000, and a Non-Denom that still gives us one chip to decide upon (two chips to decide if Chocolate becomes available). It could be a second Non-Denom, 5c, 10c, 50c, 10, 20, 50, 10000, 20000, 25000, or something completely different i.e. Bounty, All – In, Show’em etc.


Everything is up for discussion! If there is not a Clear and Strong consensus on any matter I will start up the supplemental polls.


Again, please keep the frame of “what would sell the most chips”.


Thank you,
Shane

[Maebi]

Am I right that there are 10 colors total?

So why don't use
1, 5, 10, 25, 100, 500, 1000, 5000, 10.000, NCV
or
1, 5, 10, 25, 100, 500, 2500, 10.000, 25.000 (?) , NCV

I think that there is no need for fractionals, as the smaller values could be used as cents....just my thoughts

[Felix]

Originally Posted by Maebi

Am I right that there are 10 colors total?

So why don't use
1, 5, 10, 25, 100, 500, 1000, 5000, 10.000, NCV
or
1, 5, 10, 25, 100, 500, 2500, 10.000, 25.000 (?) , NCV

I think that there is no need for fractionals, as the smaller values could be used as cents....just my thoughts

That is IMO the best and most flexible distribution of denoms.
But i would keep the 1000 so people who don´t use it may take the non-denom.

[mrcashflow]

Originally Posted by Maebi

1, 5, 10, 25, 100, 500, 1000, 5000, 10.000, NCV

I vote for the standard denoms. I think having a 2k or 2500 chip would be interesting but it seems to out of the norm around here or to other buyers.

[Double Eagle]

For me, this needs to be a tourney set with stamdard denoms. I have no need for the oddball denoms like 2,000 or 2,500. Just give me 25, 100, 500, 1,000, 5,000 & 25,000 and I am good to go.

[clifforis]

I like the 1-10k + ncv breakdown as well

[miket88]

I really hope that now that Joe has added 3 more colors, there can be AT LEAST ONE NCV chip for the set.

Please, please, please.

[TX_kiwi]

I see a few of us are wondering about a 2000 or 2500 denom chip for this GB.

I used to favor a 2000/2500 chip. Then I posted here on CT and a few 'old-hands' put me wise:

http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/chip-breakdowns/46482-t2000-2000-chip-denomination.html
See especially post #2 from Jeff (JDunford)

http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/chip-breakdowns/45489-dropping-t1000-denom-tourney-sets-2.html
see especially post #12 from Jeff, which really is food for thought.

The bottom line is that if you only ever want to play a certain tourney level (e.g. only ever T5000) then you could probably get away with using a 2000/2500 chip and it has a certain logic to it.

However,if you want the set to be truely multi-purpose, with capability to handle other blind schedules (e.g. T10000), then it appears prudent to go with the traditional T1000 and T5000 chips.

Back to Shane's very valid pointer for us all. If we want this set to be suited for the widest possible market, then I think that a 1,000 and 5,000 chip achieves this aim better than a 2000/2500 chip.