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05-18-2008, 02:53 PM
|  | In the Money | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Age: 22
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Chips: 275 | | | Re: 30¢ Compression Clay from PI I agree with the 1, 5, 25, 100, 500, 1000, 5000, 10000, 25000, NCV. | 
05-18-2008, 03:51 PM
|  | On the Bubble | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Western Michigan Age: 40
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Chips: 106 | | | Re: 30¢ Compression Clay from PI Quote:
Originally Posted by Turner Profit Noob question here, why only 1 NCV?
I presume that the NCV is a tourney chip wouldn't you need 2 NCVs?
I've always played tourneys with denominated chips (99.9999% home games). Not a lot of casino experience, but I did play in a cruise ship tourney and they used 2 NCVs. this is what I assumed to be the norm. | For most people here NCV means a Non-Denominated chip. "NCV" or No Cash Value is used by casinos to indicate a Tournament Chip.
If you are going to more than one Non-Denom, then you might as well use denoms IMHO. It doesn't matter if it 1c - 2c or 5,000,000 - 25,000,000 if you have more than one chip color then they have a 'value'.
The primary use of the Non-Denom in a poker set is that it can be whatever you need to complete the set for the game you are playing. It can be a 10c chip for small cash games, it can be 100,000 for big stack tournaments, it can be used for a Re-Buy in a single re-buy tourney or as a Bounty Chip, and it can work really well as a Card Marker. Whatever you may need - it is the perfect chip.
To change the subject;
I know why I like the '10' chip. I have already mentioned my "Big Money" cash game but I also like to use my chips instead of paper money on board games. The '10' chip is VERY useful for me in both regards.
Can someone please help me to understand the appeal of the 10,000 chip??? If you have 5,000 and 25,000 it seems to me that having a 10,000 is kinda like taking your sister along on date with your girlfriend (It might look good, but really just gets in the way...).
I didn't think that we would nail down the denoms this quickly. It seems that now it is just a question of 10 or 10,000.
I will give this another day or so to see if any other opinions arrise, I need to post a poll, or a consensus is achieved.
Shane
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05-18-2008, 04:14 PM
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Chips: 1,180 | | | Re: 30¢ Compression Clay from PI Quote:
Originally Posted by DiceCaller For most people here NCV means a Non-Denominated chip. "NCV" or No Cash Value is used by casinos to indicate a Tournament Chip.
If you are going to more than one Non-Denom, then you might as well use denoms IMHO. It doesn't matter if it 1c - 2c or 5,000,000 - 25,000,000 if you have more than one chip color then they have a 'value'.
The primary use of the Non-Denom in a poker set is that it can be whatever you need to complete the set for the game you are playing. It can be a 10c chip for small cash games, it can be 100,000 for big stack tournaments, it can be used for a Re-Buy in a single re-buy tourney or as a Bounty Chip, and it can work really well as a Card Marker. Whatever you may need - it is the perfect chip. | Shane,
Thanks for the clarification.
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05-18-2008, 04:22 PM
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Chips: 435 | | | Re: 30¢ Compression Clay from PI Personally, I think a 10 chip is just as pointless as a 10,000 chip, you can just use two 5's. Might as well make it an NCV or a fractional.
p.s. Blue would make a great NCV | 
05-18-2008, 11:52 PM
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Chips: 45 | | | Re: 30¢ Compression Clay from PI Why not have both the 10 and 10,000 for now, then when the chocolate comes available, make it the 25,000? I mean, we will have to pay a bit more for it at a later date, but no one will be buying 250 of the 25,000 chips, so the cost will be minimal. They dont need to be part of the GB, as Joe can print them later when the color becomes available. He will own the design after anyways.
And then those who dont want the 10, dont need to order it, or the 10,000 either. | 
05-19-2008, 12:40 AM
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Chips: 36 | | | Re: 30¢ Compression Clay from PI IMHO I like the idea of a .25 fractional for cash games. Although I have no idea how many people are looking to buy cash sets or tourney. Maybe a poll to see what people are wanting from the GB? I personally am looking to get a set of both, but mainly play cash games. I am not sure why having a NCV would be needed unless denoms could not fully be agreed upon.
Denoms I would like: .25, 1, 5, 25, 100, 500, 1000, 5000, 25000
I do like the idea of a 2500 chip though. Something out of the norm.
Just another .02 | 
05-19-2008, 01:15 PM
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Chips: 49 | | | Re: 30¢ Compression Clay from PI Aces,
I think I counted correctly, but you only specified 9 chips.
IIRC, we have 10 colors?
I might also take the opportunity (because I'm opportunistic) to support the simple 10 chip. Dicecaller makes a very strong argument for it. It should vastly increase the marketability to the cash set folks.
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05-19-2008, 01:51 PM
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Chips: 2,255 | | | Re: 30¢ Compression Clay from PI In the end we might find that multiple NDs may be the way if we can't agree on the denoms. I'm the boat with a 10 chip being useless, but the reasoning seems to be pushed pretty hard for either side of the argument. 
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05-19-2008, 02:17 PM
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Chips: 132 | | | Satisfying Everyone Joe might be willing to allow multiple denoms on the same color? That would allow designers the flexibility to provide the fractionals and '10' or 10,000 denominations.
After all, if Joe's objective is to maximize sales (both in this GB and subsequently) then the diverging opinions that we're identifying are something that he'll want to consider in the interests of pleaseing the maximum number of buyers.
Could Joe give an answer on this before we commence the final selection process (i.e. after the final designer is confirmed but before the colors and denoms are finalized)? | 
05-19-2008, 02:32 PM
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Chips: 107 | | | Re: Satisfying Everyone Quote:
Originally Posted by TX_kiwi Joe might be willing to allow multiple denoms on the same color? That would allow designers the flexibility to provide the fractionals and '10' or 10,000 denominations.
After all, if Joe's objective is to maximize sales (both in this GB and subsequently) then the diverging opinions that we're identifying are something that he'll want to consider in the interests of pleaseing the maximum number of buyers.
Could Joe give an answer on this before we commence the final selection process (i.e. after the final designer is confirmed but before the colors and denoms are finalized)? | This sounds best to me. I know that the idea is to get the most people in as possible, but personally, I will not buy another tourney set unless it has a 2500. I hate the 500-1000 jump.
Edit: Hmm... actually maybe I could just buy less chips and bribe the winning designer to make a plaque 2500 and 10000 for me... hmmmmm  |  | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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