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07-11-2005, 02:22 PM
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PokerStars Game #2064832922: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2005/07/09 - 10:33:27 (ET)
Table 'Lachesis' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: occabid ($4 in chips)
Seat 2: ukcats35 ($3.35 in chips)
Seat 3: kagsw ($4 in chips)
Seat 4: Kram5 ($3.85 in chips)
Seat 5: normaalbert ($4.75 in chips)
Seat 6: TX Lightning ($3.80 in chips)
normaalbert: posts small blind $0.05
TX Lightning: posts big blind $0.10
occabid: posts big blind $0.10
kagsw: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to occabid [As Ac]
occabid: checks
ukcats35: folds
kagsw: checks
Kram5: folds
normaalbert: calls $0.05
TX Lightning: raises $0.20 to $0.30
occabid: raises $0.30 to $0.60
kagsw: folds
ukcats35 leaves the table
normaalbert: calls $0.50
TX Lightning: raises $2 to $2.60
occabid: raises $1.40 to $4 and is all-in
fit4ever joins the table at seat #2
normaalbert: folds
fit4ever leaves the table
TX Lightning: calls $1.20 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [9c Ad 8s]
*** TURN *** [9c Ad 8s] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [9c Ad 8s 4d] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TX Lightning: shows [Ah 8h] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
occabid: shows [As Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
blinds = .35
call of .05
raises .20
raises .30 + .20 = .50
calls .50
raises 2.00 + .30 = 2.30
raises 1.40 + 2.00 = 3.40
calls 1.20
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total = 8.50
Am I correct?
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07-11-2005, 02:36 PM
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07-11-2005, 02:45 PM
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07-11-2005, 02:56 PM
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Chips: 1,555 | | | That extra dough you are wondering about is the RAKE. Stars takes out their share of the final pot. In this case they probably took out between 25-50 cents from this pot. | 
07-11-2005, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by chipper57AA That extra dough you are wondering about is the RAKE. Stars takes out their share of the final pot. In this case they probably took out between 25-50 cents from this pot. | According to PokerStars web site, the rake on a NL hand is $.05 per dollar in the pot (to a max of $1, $2, or $3 depending on how many are at the table). Therefore, the rake on this hand should be $.40. | 
07-11-2005, 03:04 PM
| | Chief Architect/Admin | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Reston, VA Age: 40
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PokerStars Game #2064832922: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2005/07/09 - 10:33:27 (ET)
Table 'Lachesis' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: occabid ($4 in chips)
Seat 2: ukcats35 ($3.35 in chips)
Seat 3: kagsw ($4 in chips)
Seat 4: Kram5 ($3.85 in chips)
Seat 5: normaalbert ($4.75 in chips)
Seat 6: TX Lightning ($3.80 in chips)
normaalbert: posts small blind $0.05
TX Lightning: posts big blind $0.10
occabid: posts big blind $0.10
kagsw: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to occabid [As Ac]
occabid: checks
ukcats35: folds
kagsw: checks
Kram5: folds
normaalbert: calls $0.05
TX Lightning: raises $0.20 to $0.30
occabid: raises $0.30 to $0.60
kagsw: folds
ukcats35 leaves the table
normaalbert: calls $0.50
TX Lightning: raises $2 to $2.60
occabid: raises $1.40 to $4 and is all-in
fit4ever joins the table at seat #2
normaalbert: folds
fit4ever leaves the table
TX Lightning: calls $1.20 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [9c Ad 8s]
*** TURN *** [9c Ad 8s] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [9c Ad 8s 4d] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TX Lightning: shows [Ah 8h] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
occabid: shows [As Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
occabid collected $7.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.30 | Rake $0.40
Board [9c Ad 8s 4d 7c]
Seat 1: occabid showed [As Ac] and won ($7.90) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 2: ukcats35 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kagsw folded before Flop
Seat 4: Kram5 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: normaalbert (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: TX Lightning (big blind) showed [Ah 8h] and lost with two pair, Aces and Eights
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07-11-2005, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by X-Files I am not talking about the rake I understand that and it shows correctly (.40) in the amount paid to me but the total pot before the rake is not right. Here is the whole transcript.
PokerStars Game #2064832922: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2005/07/09 - 10:33:27 (ET)
Table 'Lachesis' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: occabid ($4 in chips)
Seat 2: ukcats35 ($3.35 in chips)
Seat 3: kagsw ($4 in chips)
Seat 4: Kram5 ($3.85 in chips)
Seat 5: normaalbert ($4.75 in chips)
Seat 6: TX Lightning ($3.80 in chips)
normaalbert: posts small blind $0.05
TX Lightning: posts big blind $0.10
occabid: posts big blind $0.10
kagsw: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to occabid [As Ac]
occabid: checks
ukcats35: folds
kagsw: checks
Kram5: folds
normaalbert: calls $0.05
TX Lightning: raises $0.20 to $0.30
occabid: raises $0.30 to $0.60
kagsw: folds
ukcats35 leaves the table
normaalbert: calls $0.50
TX Lightning: raises $2 to $2.60
occabid: raises $1.40 to $4 and is all-in
fit4ever joins the table at seat #2
normaalbert: folds
fit4ever leaves the table
TX Lightning: calls $1.20 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [9c Ad 8s]
*** TURN *** [9c Ad 8s] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [9c Ad 8s 4d] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TX Lightning: shows [Ah 8h] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
occabid: shows [As Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
occabid collected $7.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.30 | Rake $0.40
Board [9c Ad 8s 4d 7c]
Seat 1: occabid showed [As Ac] and won ($7.90) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 2: ukcats35 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kagsw folded before Flop
Seat 4: Kram5 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: normaalbert (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: TX Lightning (big blind) showed [Ah 8h] and lost with two pair, Aces and Eights | I get total pot of $8.50 (from you $4.00 + ukcats35 $0.00 + Kagsw $0.10 + normaalbert $0.60 + TX Lightning $3.80)
You get back $0.20 (the amt TX couldn't call) & the rake is $0.40 so $8.50 - $0.60 = $7.90
What discrepancy are you getting? It doesn't show the $0.20 returned to you... did you not get credit for that? Post the next hand to see you total... should be $8.10.
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07-11-2005, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Fins Quote: |
Originally Posted by X-Files I am not talking about the rake I understand that and it shows correctly (.40) in the amount paid to me but the total pot before the rake is not right. Here is the whole transcript.
PokerStars Game #2064832922: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2005/07/09 - 10:33:27 (ET)
Table 'Lachesis' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: occabid ($4 in chips)
Seat 2: ukcats35 ($3.35 in chips)
Seat 3: kagsw ($4 in chips)
Seat 4: Kram5 ($3.85 in chips)
Seat 5: normaalbert ($4.75 in chips)
Seat 6: TX Lightning ($3.80 in chips)
normaalbert: posts small blind $0.05
TX Lightning: posts big blind $0.10
occabid: posts big blind $0.10
kagsw: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to occabid [As Ac]
occabid: checks
ukcats35: folds
kagsw: checks
Kram5: folds
normaalbert: calls $0.05
TX Lightning: raises $0.20 to $0.30
occabid: raises $0.30 to $0.60
kagsw: folds
ukcats35 leaves the table
normaalbert: calls $0.50
TX Lightning: raises $2 to $2.60
occabid: raises $1.40 to $4 and is all-in
fit4ever joins the table at seat #2
normaalbert: folds
fit4ever leaves the table
TX Lightning: calls $1.20 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [9c Ad 8s]
*** TURN *** [9c Ad 8s] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [9c Ad 8s 4d] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TX Lightning: shows [Ah 8h] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
occabid: shows [As Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
occabid collected $7.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.30 | Rake $0.40
Board [9c Ad 8s 4d 7c]
Seat 1: occabid showed [As Ac] and won ($7.90) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 2: ukcats35 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kagsw folded before Flop
Seat 4: Kram5 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: normaalbert (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: TX Lightning (big blind) showed [Ah 8h] and lost with two pair, Aces and Eights | I get total pot of $8.50 (from you $4.00 + ukcats35 $0.00 + Kagsw $0.10 + normaalbert $0.60 + TX Lightning $3.80)
You get back $0.20 & the rake is $0.40 so $8.50 - $0.60 = $7.90 | Thanks,
I totally blocked that .20 difference between us.
I am trying to figure out how to total the pot for the flop, turn, river and showdown.
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07-11-2005, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by fins Quote: |
Originally Posted by occabid
occabid: raises $1.40 to $4 and is all-in
TX Lightning: calls $1.20 and is all-in |
I get total pot of $8.50 (from you $4.00 + ukcats35 $0.00 + Kagsw $0.10 + normaalbert $0.60 + TX Lightning $3.80)
You get back $0.20 & the rake is $0.40 so $8.50 - $0.60 = $7.90 | Good catch fins! | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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