[PAY0FFW1ZARD]

Originally Posted by imthatguy

Just for posterity, how much more (or to what total) should I have raised?

Raise about 13-14BBs.

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by imthatguy

Just for posterity, how much more (or to what total) should I have raised?

your raise is fine in relation to his bet...but not in relation to the pot size.

there's ~ 400 in the pot preflop.

he bets 60 (which is ridiculous) and you make it 4 x that the 250, which seems reasonable. unfortunately, calling 190 into a pot of 710 makes it sort of a no-brainer for him.

When it gets to you the pot is 460. a pot sized raise is 640. if you don't want to raise that much (b/c you want value), maybe you just bet 75% pot? somewhere between 350 and 450, i guess. you may get value from a dummy with k2, and make the draws unprofitable.

also, don't quit playing online. you're too good for that

[PAY0FFW1ZARD]

His preflop raise was on the small side.

[StevenH72]

Originally Posted by PAY0FFW1ZARD

His preflop raise was on the small side.

lol we agree with you, you can stop saying it now.

[imthatguy]

Uh, what happened here? Was this enough of a raise?

Saw Flop | Saw Turn | Saw River | Saw Showdown | Won

PokerStars Game #19324938691: Tournament #99817682, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/08/03 - 12:00:00 (ET)
Table '99817682 5' 9-max Seat #2 is the button

111msv111 - t1540
oldlegoman Button - t1480
abdi122 - t1480
montana702 - t1500
mattythatguy - t1500
k.cobra.j - t1500
sharkis974 - t1500
quin77 - t1500
IPSCHOKES - t1500

PREFLOP Level I (10/20)
mattythatguy is UTG with K A
mattythatguy calls t20, 3 folds, IPSCHOKES raises t20 to t40, 3 folds, montana702 calls t20, mattythatguy raises t160 to t200, IPSCHOKES calls t160, montana702 calls t160.

FLOP t610 (3 players)
A 9 3
montana702 bets t1300, mattythatguy calls t1300, IPSCHOKES calls t1300.

TURN t4510 (3 players)
A 9 3 6

RIVER t4510 (3 players)
A 9 3 6 J

SHOW DOWN
montana702 shows J A
mattythatguy shows K A
IPSCHOKES shows Q A
montana702 collected t4510 from pot

Final Pot: t4510

[jojobinks]

what happened there was you got it in as a 75% favorite and they hit a 6 outer.

what exactly are you looking for?

[imthatguy]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

what happened there was you got it in as a 75% favorite and they hit a 6 outer.

what exactly are you looking for?

Shoulders to cry on.

I'm trying to finesse my raise bets. Was that any better?

[scottwire]

Originally Posted by imthatguy

Shoulders to cry on.

I'm trying to finesse my raise bets. Was that any better?

i think limp reraising AK in donkfests is not a great play in the long run.

if you're going to do it you need to raise more. You're out of position. You gave the first raiser 2:1 odds which most people are not folding to. What are you going to do when the board comes J97? check-fold? you're going to miss the flop 2/3 of time. I'd prefer to play AK straight forward in these spots.

AK with deep stacks is not a hand you want to try to build big pots with early. I'd prefer to see a flop first and go from there.

[PAY0FFW1ZARD]

Make a standard raise, don't limp-reraise.
Post flop is standard.