[Suicide King]

your other 1% is genius, I was gonna make a similar reply to Jojo. Im not concerned with getting stiffed by Full Tilt. Im concerned with Im leaving for the wsop on my own dime until further notice. Im pissed that I have to scan my drivers lic, and a phone bill then email it to these pricks, then wait for that to be approved before they send me a check. Im also pissed that the only phone number to contact FT is to deposit money, and when I call that number I get to talk to an Indian named Tom who tells me withdrawal isnt his deparment. They make it super easy to put money on put frikin hell to take it off..$6500 is alot of money to me, I wish I was ballin enough to where it would be just "meh" like you... <~~~~now my post is light hearted(learned that from evil)

[jojobinks]

99%...wow, how wise you are. and good thing you added the winking smiley. that really really made a difference

nah, i definitely wouldn't get all fired up and start swearing on the internetz b/c i have to wait another week or two for my money. i often gamble live, and when i do i know it's my responsibility to have cash...not P*'s or FTPs. not getting it in time, then, is my responsibility. people like to blame others though. i get it.

anyone who locks up crucial money that they need NOW, and then throws a fit over not being able to get it NOW has bigger problems than the processing times at FTP.

[guinness]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

anyone who locks up crucial money that they need NOW, and then throws a fit over not being able to get it NOW has bigger problems than the processing times at FTP.

Why don't you tell the working man who expects a weekly check that he should be able to wait a few more weeks on that expected\dependent money? FTP states the grace period for expected withdrawal. Doubling that written time period is not a problem for the user, its a problem for their system. There are people who depend on withdraw timing for life expenditures and yes its FTP's problem. You think a 3 month CD that is kept for 4 months is cool too?

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by guinness

Why don't you tell the working man who expects a weekly check that he should be able to wait a few more weeks on that expected\dependent money? FTP states the grace period for expected withdrawal. Doubling that written time period is not a problem for the user, its a problem for their system. There are people who depend on withdraw timing for life expenditures and yes its FTP's problem. You think a 3 month CD that is kept for 4 months is cool too?

i understand why it'd be annoying, but the two obv aren't the same. for instance, i know that if my employer didn't pay me it'd be actionable under US law. i also know that if the same thing happened with FTP it WOULDN'T be actionable under US law. therefore my expectations are different, right?

i'm not saying this situation is okay...i'm only saying that we know it happens sometimes, and has happened from time to time ever since online poker has been around. all we can do is be flexible (so that we can gamble live when we need to despite the variance of reality), and put our money in places that we trust (IE not the places that go busto or take forever).

as long as you play on the fringes you'll have to accept risk, imo.

[Irish Se7en]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

nah, i definitely wouldn't get all fired up and start swearing on the internetz b/c i have to wait another week or two for my money.

I got no dog in this fight but...Why shouldn't he get fired up because of FT's delay in sending his money? If FT states they'll send the $$$ in 5-10 days it SHOULDN'T be an additional week or two. Why does one need to tell someone how they should feel?

Originally Posted by jojobinks

i often gamble live, and when i do i know it's my responsibility to have cash...not P*'s or FTPs. not getting it in time, then, is my responsibility. people like to blame others though. i get it.

Who's to say he doesn't have the cash? Maybe he doesn't want to take it out of another account but now has no choice.

As for people wanting to blame other's I'll agree with you on that. No one wants to "man up" anymore. They're always looking to blame someone else before taking responsibility for their own actions. That's just the society that we live in now though. I can't say it has anything to do with this incident though, FTP caused this situation by taking their sweet time in sending his money to him.

Originally Posted by jojobinks

anyone who locks up crucial money that they need NOW, and then throws a fit over not being able to get it NOW has bigger problems than the processing times at FTP.

He didn't want in NOW, he wanted it WHEN it SHOULD have to BEEN delivered. I'm not trying to make this a bash jojo thread but that last paragraph is just fawked up.


From FTP:
At Full Tilt Poker, we believe our players should be able to withdraw funds from their accounts as easily as they can make deposits.

Hmmm

[JM]

Originally Posted by Irish Se7en

From FTP:
At Full Tilt Poker, we believe our players should be able to withdraw funds from their accounts as easily as they can make deposits.

Hmmm

That's what they believe, not necessarily what they practice!

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by 99%evil

Just tone down the arrogance....
........
Any who, I dont' really care, I just like to ruffle feathers...hence my title.

[Suicide King]

Jojo it seems like you play alot of online poker, for the life of me I really dont get what stance your taking here. You come off like you dont have a clue in the world. Its not crucial money locked up, I have the money in my bank accounts but thats not even close to the point. I allowed plenty of time for all that money to clear so I would have it for my trip. The reason Im going to Vegas is because I ran into all that money, so when it comes time for my trip its very upsetting that suddenly that money isnt available like promised. Is that a hard concept to grasp? Does it sound like Im looking for someone to blame for one of my mistakes? So you dont get mad if a large sum of money is promised to you then not delivered?
I would think another online player would get the situation a little better then you have, your reaction is comical at best.

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by Suicide King

Jojo it seems like you play alot of online poker, for the life of me I really dont get what stance your taking here. You come off like you dont have a clue in the world. Its not crucial money locked up, I have the money in my bank accounts but thats not even close to the point. I allowed plenty of time for all that money to clear so I would have it for my trip. The reason Im going to Vegas is because I ran into all that money, so when it comes time for my trip its very upsetting that suddenly that money isnt available like promised. Is that a hard concept to grasp? Does it sound like Im looking for someone to blame for one of my mistakes? So you dont get mad if a large sum of money is promised to you then not delivered?
I would think another online player would get the situation a little better then you have, your reaction is comical at best.

i'm pretty sure i have a clue. the money will get into your account. do you think otherwise? if so, then it's a matter of a few weeks. all the drama is whether they're doing what they say they'll do, and the question of how long you'll need to wait.

possible remedies:
1) be patient.
2) take your business elsewhere
3) get pissed off.

option #1 gets your your monies. option 2 excercises your displeasure in a productive manner. of the three, i'm not sure how #3 gets you anywhere.

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by Irish Se7en

He didn't want in NOW, he wanted it WHEN it SHOULD have to BEEN delivered. I'm not trying to make this a bash jojo thread but that last paragraph is just fawked up.

to quote the great and wise d!ck cheney..."so?"

seriously, when you're inconvenienced in a business transaction, you complete the transaction and then choose for yourself to continue doing business with these people or not. no one's getting ripped off here, only inconvenienced. seriously, vote with your feet, case closed.