[imthatguy]

I'm probably stupid for even posting this, but I'd like to get some viewpoints from others.

PokerStars Game #17285454785: Tournament #87560142, $20+$2 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/05/08 - 11:34:09 (ET)
Table '87560142 6' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: rr1818 (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: karenone (1510 in chips)
Seat 3: mattythatguy (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: Sandman25 (1460 in chips)
Seat 5: Lucinda Luck (1495 in chips)
Seat 6: SuperStine (1475 in chips)
Seat 7: minnMoose (1460 in chips)
Seat 8: miamitrish (1650 in chips)
Seat 9: acro1 (1500 in chips)
Lucinda Luck: posts small blind 10
SuperStine: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mattythatguy [2h Ts 3d Jc]
minnMoose: folds
miamitrish: calls 20
acro1: folds
rr1818: folds
karenone: calls 20
mattythatguy: calls 20
Sandman25: calls 20
Lucinda Luck: folds
SuperStine: checks
*** FLOP *** [9s Qc 8s]
SuperStine: checks
miamitrish: bets 110
karenone: calls 110
mattythatguy: ?

[Double Eagle]

First off, I would not have played the hand.

You flopped the nut straight, but you don't have a re-draw and will loose to a higher straight or a flush (two spades on the board or a back door). A pot size bet is needed to get the low draws to go away but your hand is very vunerable.

[AceDeuceNoUse]

Originally Posted by Double Eagle

First off, I would not have played the hand.

You flopped the nut straight, but you don't have a re-draw and will loose to a higher straight or a flush (two spades on the board or a back door). A pot size bet is needed to get the low draws to go away but your hand is very vunerable.

What he said, twice. Sets, nut flush draw, and nut straight with higher redraw are all going to hang around, waiting to catch and pounce. Granted it's early, but you are likely to drop 400-500 if the straight doesn't hold.

Also, I can't stand when someone with the butt end of your straight catches a baby flush and calls you down "just in case".

(that said, I probably would have limped in during Level I also. Since there's no redraw, I tread very carefully - A on turn, I get a little wiggle room - no A on turn, I don't get creative - see what the river holds - or takes away)

[abby99]

Originally Posted by Double Eagle

First off, I would not have played the hand.

You flopped the nut straight, but you don't have a re-draw and will loose to a higher straight or a flush (two spades on the board or a back door). A pot size bet is needed to get the low draws to go away but your hand is very vunerable.

What Double Eagle said, and for the same reasons. With a pot-sized bet and a call in front of you, two people still to act, a vulnerable hand, no redraws, and only T20 invested in the pot, I'd fold.

[Harlequin011]

First...

A smack on the nose for playing that hand.

Bad Matty.


Second...

Raise the pot.

Bail when a scare card hits.

[w16227]

Originally Posted by imthatguy

I'm probably stupid for even posting this, but I'd like to get some viewpoints from others.

cuz u know that harlequin and I are going to smack you for playing that hand. 23 be useless pretty much always. You are playing one 2 card combination against eighteen others - with action still pending.

Just call on the flop. Yes, you have the nuts - but you want to control the pot more than the # of players right now. If a brick falls, the pot is big enough to build in to a monster with the right turn bet. At this point, a raise will chase away those players who would be unable to beat you on the turn- so give them a chance to improve a bit - or even bluff. Then bring the hammer.

[imthatguy]

All good points. Yes, playing the hand was monumentally bad. I folded the flop as I didn't really feel like spewing chips when someone caught. It went no further than the turn which was a spade. I am so smrt.

Now you can sweat me, as we're in the money.

P*87560142

Sitting 9th of 16.

[abby99]

Originally Posted by imthatguy

All good points. Yes, playing the hand was monumentally bad. I folded the flop as I didn't really feel like spewing chips when someone caught. It went no further than the turn which was a spade. I am so smrt.

Good for you!

Now you can sweat me, as we're in the money.

P*87560142

Sitting 9th of 16.

Wish I could watch, but alas, I am at work and just finishing my lunch hour. Good luck, Matty! I'll catch your results post later.

[Seitz333]

Watching now, GL.

Chuck

[imthatguy]

Finished 8th of 90. Not too shabby. Thanks for the sweat Chuck!