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02-11-2008, 11:38 AM
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Chips: 3,642 | | | 2-tabling So, I'm playing 2 tables of .01/.02 NL. On 1 table I fold PF and the flop has an 8 and a 9 in it (I would not have connected). Then I get deald 89o on the other table. I'm just about to hit the fold button and realize there was an 89 on the other table flop. So I limped for the heck of it. Wouldn't you know it...89o. I bet, he folded. And on the very next hand on the original 89 table, the flop had 89 in it. WTF is up with that? | 
02-11-2008, 11:40 AM
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Once I had that:
table 1 table 2
KK xx
xx KK
KK QQ
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02-11-2008, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by aquaman So, I'm playing 2 tables of .01/.02 NL. On 1 table I fold PF and the flop has an 8 and a 9 in it (I would not have connected). Then I get deald 89o on the other table. I'm just about to hit the fold button and realize there was an 89 on the other table flop. So I limped for the heck of it. Wouldn't you know it...89o. I bet, he folded. And on the very next hand on the original 89 table, the flop had 89 in it. WTF is up with that? | Randomness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | 
02-11-2008, 11:43 AM
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02-11-2008, 11:46 AM
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02-11-2008, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jojobinks | This is interesting and funny because I'm currently loading some new tunes to the ol' ipod.
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02-11-2008, 12:07 PM
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Chips: 5,839 | | | Re: 2-tabling Also a variant of selective memory where you remember the distinctive, yet random occurences but forget the majority of non-descript occurences.
I had the same sense before where I'll fold a hand on one table only to see the perfect flop come on another table or get the same hand on 2 tables both of which catch a part of the flop.
Weirdest one was getting dealt 33 on 2 tables at the same time, both of which flopped sets. I won a small pot with one and get stacked on the other I believe. | 
02-11-2008, 12:27 PM
|  | LNPT Playa! | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: trying to figure out NL25 Age: 35
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Chips: 13,716 | | | Re: 2-tabling I notice it quite a bit on P* when I am 2 tabling. I've never compared the hands for both of them, but i do notice the same two starters quite often.
I have the two screens right next to each other overlapping a little bit. I wonder if it has to do with the random number generator (or whatever the term is for how the cards are shuffled and dealt). I thought I read somehwere that the postion of your cursor is what generates the randomness. If your cursor is beign read for both tables at the same time (IE: hole cards are being dealt for both tables at the same time) it would generate the same or very close hole cards.
I am not sure if I am right about the cursor being the catalyst for the randomness but if i did read it correctly that was my thinking
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02-11-2008, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by whataboutj I notice it quite a bit on P* when I am 2 tabling. I've never compared the hands for both of them, but i do notice the same two starters quite often.
I have the two screens right next to each other overlapping a little bit. I wonder if it has to do with the random number generator (or whatever the term is for how the cards are shuffled and dealt). I thought I read somehwere that the postion of your cursor is what generates the randomness. If your cursor is beign read for both tables at the same time (IE: hole cards are being dealt for both tables at the same time) it would generate the same or very close hole cards.
I am not sure if I am right about the cursor being the catalyst for the randomness but if i did read it correctly that was my thinking
J | Interesting concept. However, if your cursor does influence the RNG on two tables, the deal on each table would likely be influenced by the cursors of your opponents as well. As a condition for getting similar hole cards on two tables at the same time to be caused by the RNG, would both tables have to call on the RNG at the same moment, and would your opponents' cursors also have to be in the same relative position to yours, in order to put your two hole cards in the correct places in the deck relative to your position to the SB? The RNG couldn't possibly determine just your hole cards based on your cursor position without taking into consideration other players' cursor positions because hole-card assignments must be mutually exclusive (you and the person on your left cannot both have AcAs).
Given enough play, seeing this coincidence occur in a completely random fashion seems to be at least as likely as having it be the product of a certain piece of input to the RNG. I can't help but think of what I call "flop lag," as mentioned above by hachkc, where on one hand the flop completely misses me, but the flop on the very next hand would have hit those same hole cards hard, except that of course I didn't get the same hole cards twice in a row. Is this a product of the RNG? I think not, because this happens just as often in live play. (Personally, I think it's the poker gods amusing themselves at my expense.  )
We look for patterns in all sorts of places, and if no patterns are present, we often "see" them anyway. It's human nature.
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