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Old 01-17-2008, 09:30 AM
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:39 AM
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Re: Internet gamblers to claim back their losses

More politicians going nuts seeing big cash flows they can't tax the hell out of?
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Re: Internet gamblers to claim back their losses

Sounds good to me... Anybody for some high stakes HU-play?
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Re: Internet gamblers to claim back their losses

Wow. Maybe the reason there is such a problem in Finland is because they don't understand the game.


The online poker operation is based on the same kind of pyramid system used in network sales businesses. According to the social authorities, on the lowest levels of the pyramid are the gambling addicts, whose money the game organiser milks to pay the winners at the top of the pyramid.

It's a pyramid scam! Send your money to the guy to your left and the guy on your right will give you all his money that he gets from the guy on his right! Everyone wins!
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Re: Internet gamblers to claim back their losses

Here is my favorite quote:

"The idea of the law is not to force citizens to put shackles on their gambling, but merely to provide them with the opportunity to claim back the losses that they may have augmented, say, while playing online poker when drunk."

LOLZ

"I was drunk when I lost that $$10K heads-up sit-n-go! I swear! I demand a refund!! *$!(&@%**#!!"

How do any of these people, who propose moronic legislation, ever get elected?
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Re: Internet gamblers to claim back their losses

Something called the Ministry of Social Affairs - scares the hell out of me.

The "playing while drunk" was pretty good too.

So you can make a personal choice to get drunk, but if you do something stupid while your are drunk it's OK the Ministry will protect you.

If you're a gambling addict, child or a drunk, you won't be held responsible for your on-line poker loses. If you're a drunk child whose a gambling addict will they triple your refund?
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Re: Internet gamblers to claim back their losses

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I chatted in depth with a player from finland about this. Basically the Finnish govt wants to outlaw internet gambling, but can explicitly do that according to their federal law. So they had a few law experts research ways that could bring about the end of online gambling in Finland through technicalities. One expert determined that if they passed this law then players from Finland could legally fight to get their money back from online sites, and thus would become a liabilty to the online poker and gambling sites. The sites themselves would then decide to proactively ban the players instead of trying to deal with the ramifications.

Of course a few things need to be understood. First the law hasn't passed. Second if it does pass the Online sites are outside the jurisdiction of Finland's government and thus are basically exempt as long as they don't set foot in the country. Next, if this law was passed it would likely run contrary to several international trade agreements (similar to the UIGEA) and the online sites would definitely consider challenging it in international courts. Finally, it is likely that most of the sites would just ignore it the way that many major sites ignored the passing of the UIGEA.

So it is certainly a sneaky and backhanded way to try and outlaw online poker and gambling in Finland, but I have my doubts that this will succeed even if it becomes law.
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Re: Internet gamblers to claim back their losses

Interesting comments, TMJ. Typical bureaucratic thinking: we don't want to take care of the problem ourselves, so let's come up with a convoluted scheme to make it somebody else's problem.

What do I think?
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