[Vince]

Seat 1: Dothann7 ($9.15 in chips)
Seat 2: VincentJones ($5.20 in chips)
Seat 3: Scoo20 ($1.35 in chips)
Seat 4: MatzeP22 ($6.30 in chips)
Seat 5: tntdrj ($9.70 in chips)
Seat 6: Octopus87 ($7.20 in chips)
Seat 7: Mejram ($8.85 in chips)
Seat 8: Pollea ($9.80 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
VincentJones posts blind ($0.05), Scoo20 posts blind ($0.10).

PRE-FLOP
MatzeP22 bets $0.20,
tntdrj folds,
Octopus87 calls $0.20,
Mejram calls $0.20,
Pollea folds,
Dothann7 calls $0.20,
VincentJones bets $1.25, [ KD,KH ]
Scoo20 folds,
MatzeP22 calls $1.10,
Octopus87 folds,
Mejram folds,
Dothann7 calls $1.10.

FLOP [board cards: QC,2S,8H ]
VincentJones bets $3.90 and is all-in,
MatzeP22 bets $5 and is all-in,
Dothann7 calls $5.

TURN [board cards: QC,2S,8H,KS ]


RIVER [board cards: QC,2S,8H,KS,3D ]


SHOWDOWN
MatzeP22 shows [ JC,QS ]
Dothann7 shows [ AS,QH ]
VincentJones shows [ KD,KH ]
Dothann7 wins $2.10, VincentJones wins $15.30.


Three hands later:

Seat 1: Dothann7 ($5.75 in chips)
Seat 2: VincentJones ($15.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Scoo20 ($1.20 in chips)
Seat 4: lucky.lux ($10 in chips)
Seat 5: tntdrj ($8.80 in chips)
Seat 7: Mejram ($8.15 in chips)
Seat 8: Tommy1996 ($6.15 in chips)
Seat 9: 8tiger ($4.40 in chips)
Seat 10: JamesB17nd ($9.20 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
Mejram posts blind ($0.05),
Tommy1996 posts blind ($0.10),
lucky.lux posts blind ($0.10).

PRE-FLOP
8tiger calls $0.10,
JamesB17nd calls $0.10,
Dothann7 folds,
VincentJones bets $0.50, [ AH,AD ]
Scoo20 folds,
lucky.lux folds,
tntdrj folds,
Mejram folds,
Tommy1996 calls $0.40,
8tiger calls $0.40,
JamesB17nd folds.

FLOP [board cards: 7D,8D,QC ]

Tommy1996 checks,
8tiger bets $0.50,
VincentJones bets $1.50,
Tommy1996 calls $1.50,
8tiger folds.

TURN [board cards: 7D,8D,QC,4D ]

Tommy1996 checks,
VincentJones checks.

RIVER [board cards: 7D,8D,QC,4D,TH ]

Tommy1996 checks,
VincentJones bets $1.20,
Tommy1996 calls $1.20.

SHOWDOWN
VincentJones shows [ AH,AD ]
Tommy1996 mucks cards [ 8H,JS ]
VincentJones wins $7.30.

[tomb1]

Almost all the time,* I play KK like you did -- raise a bunch pre-flop to thin the field. After the flop, play aggressively based on the texture of the flop. In this case, let those Queens (luckily for you there were 2 of them!) give you their money. If an Ace falls on the flop, proceed cautiously but don't give up.

Nice to get Aces 3 hands later, too.

* OK, once in a while you might have a maniac to your left who will always raise preflop, in which case you might slow-play -- limp, re-raise. Same for a short stack. But don't get burned!

[Scoutens]

Nicely played. Quite frankly, I don't know what a couple of those people were thinking staying in like they did.

[Sea Vulture]

Originally Posted by Scoutens

Nicely played. Quite frankly, I don't know what a couple of those people were thinking staying in like they did.

It's nickel / dime crap. It's amazing how often everything gets called down at that level.

[TX_kiwi]

I'd play 'em the way you did for the Kings. But why the slower pre-flop approach three hands later? Were you trying to reel more in?

[Vince]

Yeah, I had a similar situation a few days ago. I build up a nice stack, last hand I get KK, I raised, somebody reraisesd, I pushed, TWO CALLER, AQ and A8 and the A hit on the flop.....

Originally Posted by TX_kiwi

I'd play 'em the way you did for the Kings. But why the slower pre-flop approach three hands later? Were you trying to reel more in?

Why? I made a proper raise preflop, that I raise him bet on the flop, check my added Nutflush draw on the turn and fired again on the river. I wanted to get payed. But I should have punished him for calling with a J8 off suit.

And this those hands on those low limits all you can do is fire, fire, fire. Don't tray any plays, the players there don't know equity or odds.

[TX_kiwi]

Originally Posted by Vince

on those low limits all you can do is fire, fire, fire. Don't try any plays, the players there don't know equity or odds.

Good point.

I guess what I was wondering was why not a slightly higher bet pre-flop - in line with your perceived value of the Kings?

Maybe I'm just too aggressive (it has certainly cost me in my last two starts). LOL.

[Vince]

I think I would had played the aces more aggressive if I hadn't tripled up on the Kings a few hands earlier.
I mean, you triple up on Kings, and two hands later you get aces, somehow I was like "wow, okay..... easy" Maybe I didn't want to loose a big pot with my "fresh earned" money. I dunno.
But as it turned out, he might have folded his middle pair to a higher raise or bet.

[BassVillan]

I play them hard pre flop, been donked to many times to count so I raise 4-6x bb. Post flop I am very cautious. I worry about sets, straights etc. If there is three to a straight or flush I take extra caution. This is pretty standard I think. I do NOT limp with them and let the guy with 3-6 offsuit flop a straight.

[Vince]

You shouldn't worry too much. If you put them on a straight or a flush, they many time just have top pair with an average kicker.
I used to play the same way and I couldn't really get thing going. Up to NL25 or maybe even NL50 you really have to understand that about 80% of the players don't trap and also don't play value bets or stuff like that.
I they think their hand is good, they call or bet.
If they think they have the nuts, they raise.
I they think their hand's not good, they usually fold, or maybe bluff.
If you have a good hand, but not a very good hand and somebody put ins a big raise, you simply have to fold.
Do not try to bluff expect you can be sure that your opponent folds in 9 out of 10 times.