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11-17-2007, 07:08 PM
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11-18-2007, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Diablo_Rojos | Fantastic speech! Now if only the US government had enough smart people to understand what Annie was saying.
America, land of opportunity and freedom, yet bills like this make one wonder. | 
11-18-2007, 08:25 AM
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Chips: 4,387 | | | Re: Annie Duke's testimony before Congress: Discuss Very well spoken indeed. Really touched on all the points. The major problem however, is from here:
"At its most basic level, the issue before this committee is personal freedom -- the right of individual Americans to do what they want in the privacy of their homes without the intrusion of the government."
(emphasis mine)
The government you have now does not either respect or even recognize that right. I'm sure there were members of the committee who tuned out at that point.
Otherwise, she did a great job, though I'm not sure I really want the government regulating anything to do with poker, they should just let it alone.
Vote Ron Paul. | 
11-18-2007, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Mike Very well spoken indeed. Really touched on all the points. The major problem however, is from here:
"At its most basic level, the issue before this committee is personal freedom -- the right of individual Americans to do what they want in the privacy of their homes without the intrusion of the government."
(emphasis mine)
The government you have now does not either respect or even recognize that right. I'm sure there were members of the committee who tuned out at that point. | You are so right! They've tossed the 1st, 4th, 5th amendments in the toilet and flushed long ago. Several others as well, thank god we still have the 2nd intact for now, at least until they figure out how to repeal that without a full blown insurrection. Blackwater is their solution to the posse comitatus issue though.
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11-18-2007, 08:20 PM
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Chips: 1,546 | | | Re: Annie Duke's testimony before Congress: Discuss I think the big issue is that a lot of the Online Casinos/Card Rooms are overseas so they don't get their share and those card rooms, etc.., aren't paying campaign contributions. | 
11-18-2007, 08:38 PM
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Chips: 567 | | | Re: Annie Duke's testimony before Congress: Discuss The real strange thing is the fact that regulating online poker in the US
would be a windfall for tax revenue. The US congress wouldn't even have to over tax
the sites in order to reap the benifits. They would get the fee's from the online sites that would have to register in order to be legal and the revenue from any income a poker player may receive.
A win win situation. We as poker players may have to endure higher rakes in the end, though I can't imagine it would be that much of an increase considering the volume of people that would play online.
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11-18-2007, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Mike The government you have now does not either respect or even recognize that right. I'm sure there were members of the committee who tuned out at that point. | I think this whole exercise will achieve the same results as yelling at paint so it will dry faster.  | 
11-19-2007, 07:41 AM
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11-19-2007, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo_Rojos The real strange thing is the fact that regulating online poker in the US would be a windfall for tax revenue. The US congress wouldn't even have to over tax the sites in order to reap the benifits. They would get the fee's from the online sites that would have to register in order to be legal and the revenue from any income a poker player may receive.
A win win situation. We as poker players may have to endure higher rakes in the end, though I can't imagine it would be that much of an increase considering the volume of people that would play online. |
Legalizing and regulating the sales of marijuana would also be a "windfall for tax revenue". The US congress wouldn't even have to over tax the manufacturers or vendors in order to reap the benefits. They would get fees from the manufacturers and distributors as well as consumers. A win win situation. We as pot smokers may have to endure higher prices in the end, though I can't imagine it would be that much of an increase considering the volume that would be produced and sold.
Hopefully you don't agree with the argument I've just created by applying a different subject to the exact form of your argument.
If something is illegal, the government is saying that it's immoral or for some reason wrong and we shouldn't be doing it. Just because the fed could make a crap ton of money doing something does not by any stretch mean that it's a good idea for them to be involved with it. Do you see us selling nuclear weapons to other countries? Surely we could make a lot of money from that. Marijuana possession, like gambling, is illegal in most of the country, but there are areas where it's not illegal.
I agree with your point. I think the government should legalize and regulate online poker, and I believe it will happen sooner or later. However, I don't think your argument explains why. | 
11-19-2007, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jbones Legalizing and regulating the sales of marijuana would also be a "windfall for tax revenue". The US congress wouldn't even have to over tax the manufacturers or vendors in order to reap the benefits. They would get fees from the manufacturers and distributors as well as consumers. A win win situation. We as pot smokers may have to endure higher prices in the end, though I can't imagine it would be that much of an increase considering the volume that would be produced and sold.
Hopefully you don't agree with the argument I've just created by applying a different subject to the exact form of your argument.
If something is illegal, the government is saying that it's immoral or for some reason wrong and we shouldn't be doing it. Just because the fed could make a crap ton of money doing something does not by any stretch mean that it's a good idea for them to be involved with it. Do you see us selling nuclear weapons to other countries? Surely we could make a lot of money from that. Marijuana possession, like gambling, is illegal in most of the country, but there are areas where it's not illegal.
I agree with your point. I think the government should legalize and regulate online poker, and I believe it will happen sooner or later. However, I don't think your argument explains why. | I guess I'm just a little cynical. The only thing our congress seems to understand sometimes is $$$$. Sin taxes are regressive. Given my cynicism your marijuana argument makes sense.
I think marijuana should be legal too.
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