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Old 11-17-2007, 12:22 PM
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Hit and Run? Nah..It was time for me to leave

Last night I was on stars. 5c/10NL (semi-brag post, but mostly desperate)
I'd been playing for about an hour and I was close to 100 hands.
I started out at $6 or 60BB. Again I was running cold for most of the time.
My previous big hand was QQ which I had on the 3rd hand and folded after
a unfavorable and unprofitable flop. Up to this point I was running cold not hitting
my draws..blah blah blah..yes I would like some cheese with my whine.
I had 2.15 left. Everyone had me covered. The two big stacks were playing
loose aggressive borderline maniac. So the following action was not a big shock to me. Did I have the pot odds to call? I think so.

Saw Flop | Saw Turn | Saw River | Saw Showdown | Won

PokerStars Game #13287768201: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2007/11/16 - 23:43:19 (ET)
Table 'Brixia' 9-max Seat #2 is the button

MP3 - $8.90
Button - $9.55
SB - $20.70
BB - $12.15
UTG - $10.50
UTG+1 - $4.65
MP1 - $6.30
HERO - $2.15

PREFLOP ($0.05/$0.10)
HERO is MP2 with 9 9
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, HERO raises $0.30 to $0.40, 1 fold, Button raises $2.60 to $3, SB raises $17.70 to $20.70, 2 folds, HERO calls $1.75, Button calls $6.55.

FLOP $32.60 (3 players)
6 7 7

TURN $32.60 (3 players)
6 7 7 2

RIVER $32.60 (3 players)
6 7 7 2 6

SHOW DOWN
SB shows A K
Button shows J A
SB collected$collected from pot
Button collected $7 from pot
HERO shows 9 9
HERO collected $6.35 from pot

Final Pot: $21.45 | Main pot $6.35. | Side pot $14.05. | Rake $14.05.

Anyway I got up and left after that because I had broke even and I was
tired and needed some sleep. Kind of a hit and run but since it's online
etiquette people can stick it. It was time to leave.
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Old 11-17-2007, 12:41 PM
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Re: Hit and Run? Nah..It was time for me to leave

Final Pot: $21.45 | Main pot $6.35. | Side pot $14.05. | Rake $14.05.

What's wrong with this picture

Rake $14.05???
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Re: Hit and Run? Nah..It was time for me to leave

That had to be some kind of error.
The rake was really like 3 dollars or so. I got only 3 or 4 fpps from that hand
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Re: Hit and Run? Nah..It was time for me to leave

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Final Pot: $21.45 | Main pot $6.35. | Side pot $14.05. | Rake $14.05.

What's wrong with this picture

Rake $14.05???
It was $1.05

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21.45 Main pot $6.35. Side pot $14.05. | Rake $1.05
Board [6d 7s 7d 2h 6c]
Seat 1: niveknehc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: D.Green28 (button) showed [Jc As] and won ($7) with two pair, Sevens and Sixes
Seat 3: piggy bunzz (small blind) showed [Ad Ks] and won ($7.05) with two pair, Sevens and Sixes
Seat 4: iD,Squall (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Derek Forrea folded before Flop
Seat 7: 44Maggs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: nuthing2lose folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Hero showed [9h 9c] and won ($6.35) with two pair, Nines and Sevens
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Re: Hit and Run? Nah..It was time for me to leave

I would agree it wasn't a H&R and with the nines you wanted to gamble and the better hand won. Fortunately the other two players didn't have an over pair.

D. Green going all in with A/J, Wow
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Re: Hit and Run? Nah..It was time for me to leave

I don't have a problem with your play.
My question is why yo were still at the table after losing 65% of your bankroll?
Were the others that bad or you that much on tilt?
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Re: Hit and Run? Nah..It was time for me to leave

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I would agree it wasn't a H&R and with the nines you wanted to gamble and the better hand won. Fortunately the other two players didn't have an over pair.

D. Green going all in with A/J, Wow
yeah I had to endure that for a while. That guy would go all in with almost nothing
and hit. It made me ill.

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It was $1.05
I knew the correct calculated rake was in there somewhere. So I actually got 2 FPPs
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I don't have a problem with your play.
My question is why yo were still at the table after losing 65% of your bankroll?
Were the others that bad or you that much on tilt?
Well it wasn't 65% of my bank roll. Only 65% of my buy-in $6. I would never risk 65% of my bankroll on one table. I was at that table to long though.
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Well it wasn't 65% of my bank roll. Only 65% of my buy-in $6. I would never risk 65% of my bankroll on one table. I was at that table to long though.
Minor syntax error, but the question had to be asked.
Good that you got your cash back, but I think you could have pressed too much with 9's.
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Re: Hit and Run? Nah..It was time for me to leave

you're essentially getting 2:1 vs two opponents, one who made a massive three bet and one who called a 3bet with the reraiser left to act. despite stakes, and given we have no reads, the call shows great strength.

if they were tight players i'd say it'd look like this (hand 1 being the 3better, and hand 2 being the caller).
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 26.500% 26.39% 00.11% 2929675824 12682056.00 { 99 }
Hand 1: 31.437% 28.92% 02.52% 3210948324 279557544.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 2: 42.062% 39.54% 02.52% 4390686108 279557544.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

which makes it a fold.

against random $10 NL players:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.952% 29.69% 00.26% 17447022156 151530156.00 { 99 }
Hand 1: 30.401% 28.82% 01.58% 16932684012 929545668.00 { 66+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 2: 39.647% 38.21% 01.43% 22452600996 842616468.00 { TT+, AJs+, AJo+ }

which still makes it a fold. the problem here imo is that we're praying for two overcard hands, in which case we're getting a nice overlay. but if we know one has an overpair (which is exceptionally likely), it looks like this:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 17.522% 17.41% 00.11% 549908172 3476160.00 { 99 }
Hand 1: 37.418% 37.31% 00.11% 1178258436 3476160.00 { AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 2: 45.060% 44.95% 00.11% 1419622128 3476160.00 { TT }


and that's just grim.
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