P* 9 handed turbo SNG question.

99%evil · #1 (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 06:41 AM

I haven't played a 9 handed turbo in a while, last night I jumped on one by accident (I usually play 6 person turbos...usually people play way too fast and I can jus pick my spots and triple up my money in a 30 minute sitting if I get the right cards, not really skill, just a little discipline and you can make money...they're quick for when you know you might be too tired to survive a full hour and a half tourney).

Anyway, I get on this $6+ table last night...from the get go, 4or 5 of the people do not act promptly. Every hand these 4-5 take the max time (this is a fast table) so each hand takes a minute or two (which in a turbo is a long time with those blinds ticking). Before you know it the blinds are 100/200 with 8 people still in it. It gets to 300-600 with 5 people. Is this some new strategy? I used to play these a couple years ago, but don't remember people using this tactic. Is this so the blinds are so steep that there's prety much no post flop play? Blinds at these levels commit people...so I don't see the point. I'm staying away from these, but I was just wondering if this is now the norm at these tables...people taking their time and just trying to turn it into a crap shoot.

I did win, but at the end I jst used a bit of big stack aggression along with one bad beat to get an easy win down at 3 people. (took that deposit last night and doubled it....time to donk it off)

links_slayer · #2 (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 06:53 AM

I've noticed this happening a bit more and more too, even in the 6-max turbos. It really pi$$es me off, but they're playing within the rules I suppose. Whether or not you want to reach through your monitor and strangle these rejects is another thing. They think they're being soooo clever.

99%evil · #3 (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 06:58 AM

I'm going to have to stick to cash games...I'm a big after the flop person. These tactics don't allow for it.

Oooo, I've got enough for 4 buy-ins at the Razz tables...I could beat my head against the wall again and play there...(this of course defeats the sentiments I stated in another thread about haveing at least 20 buy-ins...but it's razz man! I loves razz!...no micro-micro stakes though

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VARoadstter · #4 (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 07:43 AM

All the more reason to not play turbos, frankly. As if you needed further reason. You'd probably do better with your time just agreeing to play Roshambo against them for it.

99%evil · #5 (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 09:36 AM

My only motivation for playing any turbo game is time constraints...that and lots of poor players (even worse than me!). I'd play regular SNG's...but ...I have a hard time making the time. I'd rather sit at a cash table if I've got hours to waste than sit at a SNG. If it's about half an hour before bed, nothing's on, I'll jump into a micro 6 handed turbo, kill half an hour and double or triple my money half the time.

Wooderson · #6 (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by VARoadstter

All the more reason to not play turbos, frankly. As if you needed further reason. You'd probably do better with your time just agreeing to play Roshambo against them for it.

What other reasons are there not to play them? Turbos are great for ROI and hourly rate. Unless you go on a cooler like I have where I'm ITM in 3 of my last 20, and those are all 3rd places. But over my last 300 I'm so money, even with the downhill. And I suck at poker.

JoseRijo · #7 (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 10:22 AM

I love the $3.25 5-table SNG's on Stars. Last week they boosted my bankroll enough for me to take a shot at 25NL.

I haven't seen any human rain delays in those tournaments.

99%evil · #8 (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 11:22 AM

I play those $3.25 ones all the time, quick and fun. I think I've got a good winning percentage at those...but tend to get bored and seek other fun.

I've not seen these tactics at the $3.25 tables, this is the first full ring TSNG I've played in a long time.

VARoadstter · #9 (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wooderson

What other reasons are there not to play them? Turbos are great for ROI and hourly rate. Unless you go on a cooler like I have where I'm ITM in 3 of my last 20, and those are all 3rd places. But over my last 300 I'm so money, even with the downhill. And I suck at poker.

Well, you want to make the most of your ability and with the ridiculous blind escalation in the turbos it comes down to coinflip plays over and over. If you can perform above average in this format over the long haul that's great but I really believe that the number of times you get no real opportunity to use your talent (particularly postflop - my favorite part of the hand) will kill your ROI.

When you double up in a turbo, you're still stuck with a coinflip the next time you have a middle PP and your opponent has overcards. The stack sizes and blinds will force you to push all the time.

That's what I don't like about it. The whole point is to outplay your opponents and then leverage your stack to pick of the rest of them. In a turbo, far more often than not you're forced to do little more than flip coins to see who wins.

jbones · #10 (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Wooderson

What other reasons are there not to play them? Turbos are great for ROI and hourly rate. Unless you go on a cooler like I have where I'm ITM in 3 of my last 20, and those are all 3rd places. But over my last 300 I'm so money, even with the downhill. And I suck at poker.

Turbos are worse for ROI but better for hourly rate if you play a ton. They're obviously much less skill intensive, but you make up for it by playing more. 99's obviously talking about playing 1, not 10 or 15 a day.