[the3rd]

Originally Posted by 99%evil

THis is all the more reason why the gov't should allow online gambling. Let MGM-Mirage or Harrahs run a website, they love they're rake, they wouldn't jeopardize it over a paltry few hundred thousand dollars.

It would be cool if the major casinos were allowed to run online casinos with poker rooms...which you could earn comps toward stays at real B&M casinos.

I'd think a site like P* wouldn't have a high up (I'd hope) that would pull this, P* must make an incredible amount of money off of their rake. No reason for the founder to try and steal from his own cows.

Odd that AP (which I thought was a larger site, though I've never played there) would risk this, you'd think they make enough off all the fees to make a decent buck. Very odd they'd skim this way...guess if you're a scumbag, you're a scumbag. Maybe the site is having financial troubles and figured an easy way to fill the holes was just take the money that was out there.

I've been saying this from the beginning. The big U.S. gaming companies want in. Let them in. They have so many other revenue streams, they are less likely to cheat. Plus they have too much to lose if they cheat.

The U.S. government doesn't have much interest in regulating anything that generates a buck, the free market regulates itself so much better. But anything is better than the current nothing. The government wouldn't even need to do most of the work itself. It could use companies like e-COGRA and GA. Besides we need those billions of dollars of tax revenue for our invasion of Iran. They need democracy, dammit.

[dad604]

Originally Posted by shadesofgrey

do you have a link to where this is posted?

Nameless source is suppose to be from AP. The names mentioned should be easy enough to check out.

[jmc]

Youtube video here:
YouTube - Absolute Poker Superuser "POTRIPPER" Cheating (Part 1 of 4)

It's pretty sick stuff.
1. The guy value bets 100% on the river
2. He never pays off -- but will call bets to set up a bluff on a future street
3. He'll play almost any two cards preflop because he can bluff people out post flop. However, he'll usually get out if people have big pairs and shorter stacks.
4. He bluffs ~99% of the time when he knows his opponent has a hand that will fold to a big bet (small pairs, 2nd pair, etc).
5. He slowplays his big hands perfectly (i.e. doesn't protect his hand when normal people bet because he knows his opponents don't have draws that he's afraid of).
6. He check/folds if his opponents happen to suck out

[Ikkans]

Originally Posted by jmc

Youtube video here:
YouTube - Absolute Poker Superuser "POTRIPPER" Cheating (Part 1 of 4)

It's pretty sick stuff.
1. The guy value bets 100% on the river
2. He never pays off -- but will call bets to set up a bluff on a future street
3. He'll play almost any two cards preflop because he can bluff people out post flop. However, he'll usually get out if people have big pairs and shorter stacks.
4. He bluffs ~99% of the time when he knows his opponent has a hand that will fold to a big bet (small pairs, 2nd pair, etc).
5. He slowplays his big hands perfectly (i.e. doesn't protect his hand when normal people bet because he knows his opponents don't have draws that he's afraid of).
6. He check/folds if his opponents happen to suck out

Wow this is sick, it's so blatently obvious. How could AP not have banned him yet?

[Wylecoyo]

I wish I could get a display like that - it would make things sooooo much easier.

[dajebriza]

Now comes the true test for AP. Do they deny deny deny, cover up and hope it will go away or in the face of such damning evidence, come clean and admit it happened. If they deny and try to squirm out of it, then they deserve to be sued and driven out of business.

From what I have seen so far from them, it appears they are taking the low road.

[Quads]

Mark my words:
AP Will never recover.

This is getting too much visibility and is too high on the visibility list of the online and general poker community to be something that passes with some time and backpedaling.

[200 Motels]

I hope UB doesn't go down with them. I'm running out of potential sites to get rakeback on.

[JM]

Originally Posted by 200 Motels

I hope UB doesn't go down with them. I'm running out of potential sites to get rakeback on.

UB and AP are one and the same you realize.

[ipgyst]

I think AP's only chance is full disclosure. They announced that third-party examination, but I'm skeptical about that because the announcement was an investigation of "security procedures" and not of "the ring games and tournaments in question", for which AP has already concluded "yeah nothing happened".

If you check pokersitescout, AP's peak player numbers are HIGHER now than they were in July and August. Apparently scandal is good for them. That, and the average player is probably saying "Well AP's cheating former employees won't come after my $10s and $100s when all the cheating has been for $1000s."

My theory is that Serinda Swan was in on it. Has anybody interrogated her yet? I can't volunteer because wifey would kill me, but I'm sure one of you guys would step up.