[beekeeper]

Collusion isn't very common and is usually sniffed out by the site's security.

This was happening at the highest of limits and joe average poker player at low-mid limits has no reason to stop playing.

I don't play online, but I think this sounds very reasonable. If I were a cheater, taking a very big risk, I'd want the reward to be worth it.

[hachkc]

Originally Posted by Sea Vulture

IThe above illustration is only the "latest" example. Only a short time ago, a player was "busted" in another tournament (I forget which one) for playing two accounts and he ended up at the final table with both accounts. My guess is that more and more of these "issues" will keep coming to light.

I think that was the infamous "zeejustin" story. Does make you wonder how many folks they do or don't catch that you never hear about?

As I said earlier, to each their own. If something makes you uncomfortable, then don't do it. I personally am willing to accept of bit of FUD in the online poker market; my enjoyment of it outweighs the FUD aspect. Similar to flying airplanes, driving cars, skydiving, etc; just a much smaller downside. I know I guy that plays online for a living (actually 2 of those now TMJ2K), I'm sure this is a much bigger deal for him than me.

[Chipmunk]

Online allows me to play smaller limits than I could in brick and mortar casinos. I also love the edge my tracking software gives Not only in keeping records of the other players, but also for reviewing my play and fixing leaks. I also like the bonuses, I doubt anyone would give me free money to play some NL in a casino. I like the fact that I can play for 15 minutes and change tables if I want.

[JCTC]

There seems to be a great deal of anonymity as well as opportunity to game the system online. Live casinos have had a long time and a lot of experience which has allowed them to develop practices that make stealing more difficult, and there is little anonymity for the casino and the players in a live game. Internet gambling is so much of a trust-me type of thing. You have to trust the sites, and their technology. Anytime there's an opportunity to steal money, there will be people who get pretty good at stealing. For me, I miss regularly playing on-line poker, but for me, having limited ability to access on-line gambling probably is a a better thing. Gives me more reason to value the time when I do get to the real Casino.

[Poboy]

The Patriots were caught cheating. That doesn't mean everyone else is. Or that the NFL is rigged.

[shadesofgrey]

i am actually a little relieved in the news. i read it as there is no hacker, or rogue programmer, it was an inside job by someone high up. which in turn means it is limited in scope and not open to any smart hacker out there.

[Sea Vulture]

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not condemning anyone who plays online. I just personally don't trust it and prefer live.

Like I said, it likely has helped fuel the poker world with more players who want to play "live". We should ALL be thankful for that.

[99%evil]

THis is all the more reason why the gov't should allow online gambling. Let MGM-Mirage or Harrahs run a website, they love they're rake, they wouldn't jeopardize it over a paltry few hundred thousand dollars.

It would be cool if the major casinos were allowed to run online casinos with poker rooms...which you could earn comps toward stays at real B&M casinos.

I'd think a site like P* wouldn't have a high up (I'd hope) that would pull this, P* must make an incredible amount of money off of their rake. No reason for the founder to try and steal from his own cows.

Odd that AP (which I thought was a larger site, though I've never played there) would risk this, you'd think they make enough off all the fees to make a decent buck. Very odd they'd skim this way...guess if you're a scumbag, you're a scumbag. Maybe the site is having financial troubles and figured an easy way to fill the holes was just take the money that was out there.

[Ikkans]

Guess they're trying to make up for all that Bad Beat Jackpot money!

[shadesofgrey]

Originally Posted by 99%evil

I'd think a site like P* wouldn't have a high up (I'd hope) that would pull this, P* must make an incredible amount of money off of their rake. No reason for the founder to try and steal from his own cows.

from what i understand scott tom is the former CEO of AP. So, he's probably no longer getting a piece of the AP rake pie. My guess, is the fool lived outside of his means, went busto, and tried to cheat people online to get some more money.