[Ikkans]

I was playing in the nightly Triple Shootout tournament at Pokerstars tonight, $3.00+$0.30 buyin. It had 728 people in. I beat my first table, and on my second table I was heads up with, with my final opponent having a little over a 4 to 1 chip lead, and blinds at 100/200. The following hand happened, I'm wondering if you would have played it this way and moved in:

PokerStars Game #12273428728: Tournament #61820041, $3.00+$0.30
Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level VII (100/200) - 2007/09/25 -
23:47:18 (ET)
Table '61820041 5' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: hadams2774 (11000 in chips)
Seat 9: Ikkans (2500 in chips)
hadams2774: posts the ante 25
Ikkans: posts the ante 25
hadams2774: posts small blind 100
Ikkans: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ikkans [2s 9c]
hadams2774: calls 100
Ikkans: checks
*** FLOP *** [4c 8d 3s]
Ikkans: checks
hadams2774: checks
*** TURN *** [4c 8d 3s] [As]
Ikkans: checks
hadams2774: checks
*** RIVER *** [4c 8d 3s As] [5s]
Ikkans: bets 200
hadams2774: raises 800 to 1000
Ikkans: raises 1275 to 2275 and is all-in
hadams2774: calls 1275
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ikkans: shows [2s 9c] (a straight, Ace to Five)
hadams2774: shows [6c 7d] (a straight, Four to Eight)
hadams2774 collected 5000 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5000 | Rake 0
Board [4c 8d 3s As 5s]
Seat 2: hadams2774 (button) (small blind) showed [6c 7d] and won
(5000) with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 9: Ikkans (big blind) showed [2s 9c] and lost with a straight,
Ace to Five

I certainly didn't put him on a runner runner flush, and I don't think anyone would have thought he would have rivered a higher straight than I had made. If he reraised you, would you have moved all in like I did?

I was extremely disappointed when I lost, I could taste the final table. I busted on that hand and finished 16th out of 728 though, so I wasn't entirely disappointed.

[jojobinks]

don't include results, for obvious reasons.

he raised you on the river. most players are unlikely to do that with two pair, so he's got a set, a straight or a flush. you beat a set, lose to 1 straight and tie another, and lose to the flush.

why wouldn't you put him on the flush or the straight? you guys checked it down, couldn't he have anything? i can't really tell why pushing there is better than calling. call and move on.

[Irish Se7en]

I think you're going to lose chips on this hand regardless. If you check to trap and he raises, I believe you would have pushed. Though essentially, you did the same with the minimum bet, he reraised, you were thinking about doubling up and you pushed.

*These higher straights are killing members here lately.*

As for what I would have done, it depends. Why did he have a little more than a 4:1 chip lead over me. Was he playing well or were the other players dumping chips to him. Did I suffer a bad beat and now I'm on Tilt or at least steaming because of it? So with that being said, if I thought he was a poor player, on Tilt, hoping to double up, I push. That has happened before. On the other hand, given that there's a possible flush and a possible higher straight (it's good to know what he had ), I'm just calling his reraise, losing 1K and now it's push time.

[Ikkans]

I guess the major problem was that he had been calling with marginal hands a lot at that table. When we were 3 handed we looked like this:

Me: 7,500
Him: 3,000
3rd Person: 3,000

I was dealt AJ on the button and raised it, he called and the 3rd guy folded. The flop came A Q 4 and I raised it, he reraised and I pushed him all in. He called, his cards: Q 9. I had him dominated. The turn was a 9 and he doubled up through me. I think that's one of the major reasons that I called.

I also didn't put him on a flush because he had been betting flush draws during the entire round.

[w16227]

no raise on river there -

while yu may get someone to call with 2p (or an A), in all liekhood you will be called by a split pot at best.

I do not fold to the raise - but would want to play it safe and conserve some chips while I could. That extra 1200 will most likely not give you the extra edge to win the tournament, but handing on to them will give you a way to win if you lose the hand (ok- not a great one, but something is better than zero).

Plus - I would not rule out runner runner flush. With no action, you have no idea what they hold - and the betting could easily indicate a flush.

[Ikkans]

Looking back after I got knocked out, I realized that I should have checked it down, and you're right, in retrospect the best I was really looking at was a split pot, but instead the thought of doubling up had me pushing all my chips in the pot. Oh well, there are 2 triple shootouts tonight I'm gonna play, hopefully I'll hit the final table in at least one of them this time.