[ACE'S FULL]

Played 8 hands up till this one. Is my play ok or should I do something different. Open to comments. Good or Bad.



PokerStars Game #11100826508: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2007/07/23 - 22:02:38 (ET)
Table 'Deiphobus IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Friscette ($3.63 in chips)
Seat 2: Penisser ($5.83 in chips)
Seat 3: dspills39 ($3.53 in chips)
Seat 4: D-Mac882 ($5.05 in chips)
Seat 5: nore2006 ($4.70 in chips)
Seat 6: Magnum R/T ($5.07 in chips)
Friscette: posts small blind $0.02
Penisser: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Magnum R/T [8s 8h]
dspills39: calls $0.05
D-Mac882: calls $0.05
nore2006: calls $0.05
Magnum R/T: raises $0.17 to $0.22
Friscette: folds
Penisser: folds
dspills39: folds
D-Mac882: calls $0.17
nore2006: calls $0.17
*** FLOP *** [2s 8d 2c]
D-Mac882: bets $0.25
nore2006: calls $0.25
Magnum R/T: Does what here???

[Big Mike]

I would definitely raise, hoping one or both of them has a deuce or possibly an overpair and will pay you off.
Making the pot bigger with a raise now will also make it easier to get their whole stack in later on. I like your raise with the 88 in position, though i would sometimes call in that spot too.

[ACE'S FULL]

Originally Posted by Big Mike

I would definitely raise, hoping one or both of them has a deuce or possibly an overpair and will pay you off.
Making the pot bigger with a raise now will also make it easier to get their whole stack in later on. I like your raise with the 88 in position, though i would sometimes call in that spot too.

That was the same thought that I had but if player raises my way and I RR as apposed to call there maybe a chance that they fold to RR. What do you think about calling if there is a bet??

[jojobinks]

limp along preflop. if a flop like this comes you want everyone with you. if it comes KT7 it doesn't matter how many players there are. there are only good flops and bad ones. the good ones are very good and the bad ones are very bad.

see what i mean?

as for now, the only way you'll get called by someone that's not an idiot is if they have an overpair. you have the deck crippled. call and try to get turn action/overcallers.

btw, you have nothing to fear here. either you're crushed by 22 or your opponents are drawing to 2 outs each. slowplay is fine.

[Dissolved]

I would min raise, Better to get your money in now and see where you're at. Just me, But I've slow played TOP NUTS lately and have been getting rivered. Nothing to whine about tho.

[ACE'S FULL]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

limp along preflop. if a flop like this comes you want everyone with you. if it comes KT7 it doesn't matter how many players there are. there are only good flops and bad ones. the good ones are very good and the bad ones are very bad.

see what i mean?

as for now, the only way you'll get called by someone that's not an idiot is if they have an overpair. you have the deck crippled. call and try to get turn action/overcallers.

btw, you have nothing to fear here. either you're crushed by 22 or your opponents are drawing to 2 outs each. slowplay is fine.

I know what you mean... Being 6 handed I found it highly unlikley that anyone had 22 here. So I knew I was ok here just wanted to make the most or get it in if I could... Here is how it played out. Also looking for comments on how I played it after the flop etc...

Magnum R/T: raises $0.25 to $0.50
D-Mac882: calls $0.25
nore2006: folds
*** TURN *** [2s 8d 2c] [9s]
D-Mac882: checks
Magnum R/T: bets $0.50
D-Mac882: calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [2s 8d 2c 9s] [Qc]
D-Mac882: checks
Penisser is disconnected
Magnum R/T: bets $0.85
Penisser is connected
D-Mac882: calls $0.85
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Magnum R/T: shows [8s 8h] (a full house, Eights full of Deuces)
D-Mac882: mucks hand
Magnum R/T collected $4.53 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.73 | Rake $0.20
Board [2s 8d 2c 9s Qc]
Seat 1: Friscette (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Penisser (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: dspills39 folded before Flop
Seat 4: D-Mac882 mucked [7d 8c]
Seat 5: nore2006 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Magnum R/T (button) showed [8s 8h] and won ($4.53) with a full house, Eights full of Deuces

[dad604]

I would have raised more on the flop. Either he has something or else he is going to fold anyway. If he has over pair or a 2, he is going to call bigger bets. If he has nothing, you are not going to make anymore. 1/2 - 2/3 pot bets are about right most of the time.

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by dad604

I would have raised more on the flop. Either he has something or else he is going to fold anyway. If he has over pair or a 2, he is going to call bigger bets. If he has nothing, you are not going to make anymore. 1/2 - 2/3 pot bets are about right most of the time.

or he might just keep putting money in:

PokerStars Game #11103581110: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/07/24 - 00:54:09 (ET)
Table 'Nashira' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: realityczech ($156.10 in chips)
Seat 3: Random_Rules ($224.20 in chips)
Seat 4: thejojobinks ($51.50 in chips)
Seat 5: jaimlynn ($71.15 in chips)
Seat 6: buzzxx ($83.15 in chips)
Seat 7: Supercucker ($86.30 in chips)
Seat 8: BankItDrew ($204.55 in chips)
Seat 9: BinaryFinary ($200 in chips)
Random_Rules: posts small blind $1
thejojobinks: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to thejojobinks [8s 7s]
jaimlynn: folds
buzzxx: folds
Supercucker: calls $2
BankItDrew: folds
BinaryFinary: calls $2
realityczech: folds
Random_Rules: calls $1
thejojobinks: checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 7d 7c]
Random_Rules: checks
thejojobinks: checks
Supercucker: bets $4
BinaryFinary: folds
Random_Rules: folds
thejojobinks: calls $4
*** TURN *** [8c 7d 7c] [2c]
thejojobinks: checks
Supercucker: bets $8
thejojobinks: raises $12 to $20
Supercucker: calls $12
*** RIVER *** [8c 7d 7c 2c] [9c]
thejojobinks: bets $25.50 and is all-in
Supercucker: calls $25.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
thejojobinks: shows [8s 7s] (a full house, Sevens full of Eights)
Supercucker: mucks hand
thejojobinks collected $104 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $107 | Rake $3
Board [8c 7d 7c 2c 9c]
Seat 1: realityczech (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Random_Rules (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: thejojobinks (big blind) showed [8s 7s] and won ($104) with a full house, Sevens full of Eights
Seat 5: jaimlynn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: buzzxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Supercucker mucked [Kc Jc]
Seat 8: BankItDrew folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: BinaryFinary folded on the Flop

[w16227]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

limp along preflop. if a flop like this comes you want everyone with you. if it comes KT7 it doesn't matter how many players there are. there are only good flops and bad ones. the good ones are very good and the bad ones are very bad.

see what i mean?

as for now, the only way you'll get called by someone that's not an idiot is if they have an overpair. you have the deck crippled. call and try to get turn action/overcallers.

btw, you have nothing to fear here. either you're crushed by 22 or your opponents are drawing to 2 outs each. slowplay is fine.

ditto to everything Matt said.

You have position - use it. This is a EXTREMELY weak flop. No flush or st8 draws out there. Unless the other players have stong overpairs (or are just idiots), your raise may kill all future action or worse yet - blof them off of the hand right now. If they are weak, they fold right away. If they have an overpair, they may call the flop raise - and then check fold to any future action ( or give you very limited action).

Wait for the turn action - then you can build the pot a little more. If they check-fold then, well---- they would not have called you on the flop. With any luck, a J/Q/K hits and you can hook someone into paying you off.

[w16227]

min raie bad----

Minimum raises can be a usefull tool if you are playing against the same players all of the time and are trying to mix up your play (not good to overuse). Lower limit tables - this is usually a big sign of strength, especially when done into two people. In your case - you scared one of the players out of the hand. Now, you need to drag 2x as much from one player on future streets to have the same impact. Jojo's hand shows a good example of a betting pattern to use to maximize return in these hands. Even though calling the flop will create a smaller pot, you have a higher % chance that one of them will bet out on the turn. If not, you can throw out a smaller bet that will be much less suspicious than the flop raise. Even an overbet in that situation may look like a steal attempt and get you action.

Originally Posted by ACE'S FULL

I know what you mean... Being 6 handed I found it highly unlikley that anyone had 22 here. So I knew I was ok here just wanted to make the most or get it in if I could... Here is how it played out. Also looking for comments on how I played it after the flop etc...

Magnum R/T: raises $0.25 to $0.50
D-Mac882: calls $0.25
nore2006: folds
*** TURN *** [2s 8d 2c] [9s]
D-Mac882: checks
Magnum R/T: bets $0.50
D-Mac882: calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [2s 8d 2c 9s] [Qc]
D-Mac882: checks
Penisser is disconnected
Magnum R/T: bets $0.85
Penisser is connected
D-Mac882: calls $0.85
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Magnum R/T: shows [8s 8h] (a full house, Eights full of Deuces)
D-Mac882: mucks hand
Magnum R/T collected $4.53 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.73 | Rake $0.20
Board [2s 8d 2c 9s Qc]
Seat 1: Friscette (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Penisser (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: dspills39 folded before Flop
Seat 4: D-Mac882 mucked [7d 8c]
Seat 5: nore2006 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Magnum R/T (button) showed [8s 8h] and won ($4.53) with a full house, Eights full of Deuces