[squiggly]

Please help me with my thought process. I think I played this alright, other than maybe shouldn't have been there in the first place. Is this an inevitable result, or does his betting sequence tell you something else?

PokerStars Game #10300474690: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/06/06 - 12:26:13 (ET)
Table 'Oileus' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: siamoa ($8.45 in chips)
Seat 2: NorbiM3 ($45.10 in chips)
Seat 3: Lonneke222 ($29.95 in chips)
Seat 4: Squiggly69 ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 5: rtrust ($15.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Belfour31 ($21.95 in chips)
Seat 7: dyarh ($47.70 in chips)
Seat 8: sticky0007 ($30.85 in chips)
Seat 9: LOLA33 ($65.55 in chips)
rtrust: posts small blind $0.25
Belfour31: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Squiggly69 [Jh 9h]
dyarh: calls $0.50
sticky0007: folds
LOLA33: calls $0.50
siamoa has timed out
siamoa: folds
siamoa is sitting out
NorbiM3: folds
Lonneke222: calls $0.50
Squiggly69: calls $0.50
** Lots of limpers, not a great hand but I called anyway. **

rtrust: calls $0.25
Belfour31: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd Qs Td]
rtrust: checks
Belfour31: checks
dyarh: checks
LOLA33: bets $2
Lonneke222: calls $2
Squiggly69: raises $6 to $8
** At this point the only hand I worry about is AJ. Anyone chasing a flush should be priced out or close to it. **

rtrust: folds
Belfour31: folds
dyarh: folds
LOLA33: raises $13 to $21
Lonneke222: folds
Squiggly69: calls $13
** Hoping he has trips. **

*** TURN *** [Kd Qs Td] [5s]
LOLA33: bets $44.05 and is all-in
Squiggly69: calls $27 and is all-in
** If he had AJ I still had 3 Aces as outs to split (but with that many limpers PF some of those were probably gone) **

*** RIVER *** [Kd Qs Td 5s] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LOLA33: shows [Js As] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Squiggly69: mucks hand
LOLA33 collected $98 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $101 | Rake $3
Board [Kd Qs Td 5s 7d]
Seat 1: siamoa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: NorbiM3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Lonneke222 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Squiggly69 (button) mucked [Jh 9h]
Seat 5: rtrust (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Belfour31 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: dyarh folded on the Flop
Seat 8: sticky0007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: LOLA33 showed [Js As] and won ($9 with a straight, Ten to Ace

[imthatguy]

Well, idiot end of a straight... Don't know what else to say. Happens all the time.

Originally Posted by squiggly

Please help me with my thought process. I think I played this alright, other than maybe shouldn't have been there in the first place. Is this an inevitable result, or does his betting sequence tell you something else?

PokerStars Game #10300474690: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/06/06 - 12:26:13 (ET)
Table 'Oileus' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: siamoa ($8.45 in chips)
Seat 2: NorbiM3 ($45.10 in chips)
Seat 3: Lonneke222 ($29.95 in chips)
Seat 4: Squiggly69 ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 5: rtrust ($15.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Belfour31 ($21.95 in chips)
Seat 7: dyarh ($47.70 in chips)
Seat 8: sticky0007 ($30.85 in chips)
Seat 9: LOLA33 ($65.55 in chips)
rtrust: posts small blind $0.25
Belfour31: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Squiggly69 [Jh 9h]
dyarh: calls $0.50
sticky0007: folds
LOLA33: calls $0.50
siamoa has timed out
siamoa: folds
siamoa is sitting out
NorbiM3: folds
Lonneke222: calls $0.50
Squiggly69: calls $0.50
** Lots of limpers, not a great hand but I called anyway. **

rtrust: calls $0.25
Belfour31: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd Qs Td]
rtrust: checks
Belfour31: checks
dyarh: checks
LOLA33: bets $2
Lonneke222: calls $2
Squiggly69: raises $6 to $8
** At this point the only hand I worry about is AJ. Anyone chasing a flush should be priced out or close to it. **

rtrust: folds
Belfour31: folds
dyarh: folds
LOLA33: raises $13 to $21
Lonneke222: folds
Squiggly69: calls $13
** Hoping he has trips. **

*** TURN *** [Kd Qs Td] [5s]
LOLA33: bets $44.05 and is all-in
Squiggly69: calls $27 and is all-in
** If he had AJ I still had 3 Aces as outs to split (but with that many limpers PF some of those were probably gone) **

*** RIVER *** [Kd Qs Td 5s] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LOLA33: shows [Js As] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Squiggly69: mucks hand
LOLA33 collected $98 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $101 | Rake $3
Board [Kd Qs Td 5s 7d]
Seat 1: siamoa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: NorbiM3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Lonneke222 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Squiggly69 (button) mucked [Jh 9h]
Seat 5: rtrust (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Belfour31 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: dyarh folded on the Flop
Seat 8: sticky0007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: LOLA33 showed [Js As] and won ($9 with a straight, Ten to Ace

Just want you to know I'm not calling you an idiot. It happens though, just unlucky. Too bad he limped with AJ too...

[99%evil]

I'd limp with J,9 suited no problem, I've caught 2 or 3 straight flushes with that hand. Not knowing how people played previous it's hard to say. If this guy limped with decent cards before, you have no idea what he has, could be against two pair, I doubt a set since it should have been raised PF. I guess AJ or the flush draw is there, especialy an AX flush draw that has a bunch of outs. I imagine he put you on the flush draw that's why the all-in on the turn. Need more info on the guy to make a determination. You could have several hands that kill you on the river, especially if the flush hits. So you cold have easily lost to 2,3 of diamonds.

[TheMightyJim2k]

this is what is commonly referred to as a cooler. Not too much to critique. You had the second nuts and got it all-in. that's usually a pretty good plan.

My spidey-sense is telling me this is more of a bad-beat/cooler thread then an attempt to learn strategy.

In the future post up your hands one step at a time and let people respond to your actions so they don't make results oriented comments. For example show the preflop action and your hand as ask "what would you do here?" After you get a few responses show the flop and the action up to you and ask it again. After you get some responses about that then you can reveal that somone shoved all-in against you and you can ask whether or not you should call. this way people focus on the actual hand and decision points in it, instead of focusing on the end and the results.

Pick more difficult hands, reveal them in pieces so as to avoid results-oriented responses and you'll probably get better advice.

[Harlequin011]

I go broke 7 out of 10 times here.

The chances are low that he has a AJ here. And unless you know this guy as a nut farmer I don't see how you get away.

[squiggly]

Originally Posted by TheMightyJim2k

My spidey-sense is telling me this is more of a bad-beat/cooler thread then an attempt to learn strategy.

Actually no. I really want to know whether I played this hand correctly or not. My intention was not to have it look like a bad beat.

Originally Posted by TheMightyJim2k

In the future post up your hands one step at a time and let people respond to your actions so they don't make results oriented comments. For example show the preflop action and your hand as ask "what would you do here?" After you get a few responses show the flop and the action up to you and ask it again. After you get some responses about that then you can reveal that somone shoved all-in against you and you can ask whether or not you should call. this way people focus on the actual hand and decision points in it, instead of focusing on the end and the results.

Pick more difficult hands, reveal them in pieces so as to avoid results-oriented responses and you'll probably get better advice.

Noted, will do that next time.

Originally Posted by 99%evil

I doubt a set since it should have been raised PF.

That was one thing I didn't think of. Thanks.

Originally Posted by 99%evil

Need more info on the guy to make a determination.

My third hand at the table, so you have as much info about this guy as I do, barring pokertracker.

[Hopin2Steal]

Limping with J9h was fine; why not? No one did anything to suggest you *shouldn't* be in the pot. AJs is not the greatest hand and that player may have been varying his play anyway. But there is definitely no reason not to see the flop.

So then you have the second best straight. You raise was good, it pushed out the blinds. However, then you see a 1.5x raise to your bet and one that is almost a pot sized bet.

You have $40 left. You either lay this down or push, I think. A call means you are hoping for an ace or hoping you are ahead. But if an ace doesn't come are you going to walk away with $27 or push *that*?

But it's just semantics to some extent since I don't see how you can lay down the second best straight. Bad luck is what it looks like to me. If the other guy had raised more on the flop, maybe you could've gotten away...

[squiggly]

Originally Posted by Hopin2Steal

However, then you see a 1.5x raise to your bet and one that is almost a pot sized bet.

You have $40 left. You either lay this down or push, I think. A call means you are hoping for an ace or hoping you are ahead. But if an ace doesn't come are you going to walk away with $27 or push *that*?

Good comment. That type of forward thought process is what I need to work on.
Thanks for pointing that out.