[i run 8s]

You blame paypal??? They didn't make the rules, the goverment did. Because we don't agree with the rules is no reason to take it out on the messenger. I'm sure they would prefer not to have review any transactions,

8's

Originally Posted by Quads

F* Paypal.
You can buy any poker related item off ebay needed to set up a gambling operation all of which is perfectly OK, but when you swap cash with someone which could be for an online [poker] site they rule with their mighty TOC?

Blow it out your arse Paypal. Take your hypocritical TOC and stick it where the sun don't shine.

[MsprinM]

I remember reading an article awhile back, but unfortunetly I cant remember where, that Paypal was taking steps to set themselves up to handle transactions for gambling sites overseas. I stopped using ebay and paypal that very day because this was around the time that the gambling ban was going into effect.

[sunderB]

Originally Posted by Quads

If I write you a check, and in the memo section of the check, I write "crack and hookers", mail it to you, you take it to the bank and deposit it. The bank doesn't read that memo, and base a decision to validate or invalidate the transaction based on the memos contents. They not only have no right to do so, but have no grounds in doing so. They know nothing about it, therefore can not act on it. For all you know, Crack and Hookers" could be the names of your two dogs, and I'm repaying you for the couch my dogs ate at your house.

Actually did this as a joke to my buddy many years ago. Thinking I was funny in an attempt to embarrass my friend, I wrote "for sexual favors" in the memo of the check I wrote him for a few bucks I owed. Well I did embarrass him because the teller would not cash it without approval of the bank manager and the bank manager came over and explained to my friend that they could not cash the check. Needless to say, I had to (before I had an ATM card) go cash another check to give my friend cash at that point because he was pretty pissed. Was still funny though

[MasterBrewer]

Originally Posted by Quads

Paypal is in no way protecting themselves. They think they are, in thier girth of wisdom- but they are cutting off the hand that feeds them. (well done ebay)
First off, they are invading the privacy of your transaction by reading or monitoring the notes section of your transaction. Secondly, they are acting on something, of which they know nothing about, nor do they have the authority to do so.

I'm not saying its right, I'm just saying they could potentially be so scared of the renegade US gov't that they are reacting to everything. Sure, by doing this they are hurting their member base, but they are absolutely doing this in an effort to protect themselves.

One quick thing: you have zero expectation of privacy with regards to the memo section of your paypal transaction.... Paypal isn't violating anyone's privacy when they read something you voluntarily type into a form on their website. They have all the authority in the world to act upon any transaction they deem unfit. Its their service and they can do whatever they want with any transaction they please.

To use your bank check reference, the bank absolutely CAN deny the cashing of a check based on anything about the check that could be considered "not correct". A bank's check isn't a valid form of payment unless the issuing bank deems it valid. They can refuse to cash a check if they have a "valid" reason (whatever that is). Sure, they will have to feel the wraith of their customer(s) if it turns out the reason is silly and stupid (which is why this never happens), but that doesn't mean it can't happen.