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05-18-2007, 12:51 PM
|  | Final Table | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Madtown, WI Age: 35
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Chips: 594 | | | converting PT stats to hand ranges?? Has anyone tried to associate PT stats (for example: 23/14/2.5) to what approximate hand ranges that equates to?
I mean I've been playing for quite awhile, I have PT and PAHUD and I look at the stats..... but I gotta admit that I don't feel like I have nearly a good enough handle on how to translate them, or put them to practical use....
Sad really. I've been playing far too long to just have had this realization the other day... Definitely a leak, and a good sign that I've gotten lazy in terms of trying to move my game to the next level.... | 
05-20-2007, 09:32 PM
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Chips: 71 | | | Re: converting PT stats to hand ranges?? Go to 2plus2 in the software section there is a thread regarding how to use PT and PAHUD and "roughly" where the stats put a person. | 
05-20-2007, 10:05 PM
|  | World Series Final Table | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Galt's Gultch Age: 94
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Chips: 2,224 | | | Re: converting PT stats to hand ranges?? Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeydog Go to 2plus2 in the software section there is a thread regarding how to use PT and PAHUD and "roughly" where the stats put a person. | This though is useless without links... I just looked for some on 2+2 but came up with nothing. | 
05-20-2007, 10:17 PM
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Chips: 2,456 | | | Re: converting PT stats to hand ranges?? VPIPs are not the whole answer on hand ranges, but basically the bigger it is the wider the range. Playing full ring games, 23 is in the semi loose range, and for 6max it's in the tight range.
Putting HUD numbers to use depends on what numbers you display. For example, folds to c-bet % is one of the more useful numbers IMO. Unless you're datamining, you may not get enough hands on your opponents for it to really be useful.
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05-21-2007, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Wooderson This though is useless without links... I just looked for some on 2+2 but came up with nothing. |
Sorry...wasn't even 2+2  .
Here is the link, http://www.bet-the-pot.com/forum/poker-article3164.html
Enjoy,
Collin | 
05-21-2007, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by monkeydog | That makes complete sense. Excession is the PT/PAHUD savant! | 
05-21-2007, 12:54 PM
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Chips: 594 | | | Re: converting PT stats to hand ranges?? Thanks, I'm gonna check that link when I get home from work  | 
05-21-2007, 05:03 PM
|  | World Series Final Table | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Galt's Gultch Age: 94
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Chips: 2,224 | | | Re: converting PT stats to hand ranges?? I realized earlier, but those are just Excession's PT rules for ranking players. That has nothing to do with the original question - possible hand ranges of someone that is 23/7/2 or somesuch.
That said, Excession's talk about how his rules came about is well worth reading. | 
05-21-2007, 07:37 PM
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Chips: 71 | | | Re: converting PT stats to hand ranges?? I think how the player ranks would help determine his hand range...
Maniac=any two cards any position
Rock=JJ+, AQs+
LAG=22+,suited connectors from any postion, connected from late position
TAG=22-1010 late, 77+ mid, jj+early, suited connectors in position
Rough guidlines? | 
05-21-2007, 08:20 PM
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Chips: 2,456 | | | Re: converting PT stats to hand ranges?? We don't know what game he's playing, so we can't make any inferences as to hand ranges other than what I posted - high VPIP=wide range.
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