[Poboy]

Originally Posted by Wooderson

I semi-disagree about someone being 60/x/1.5 being very aggressive. That's more than likely someone that likes to raise early but never goes to showdown without the nuts, probably folds to 50% of flop bets or if raised and folds to 90% of turn bets. I am assuming 6max here.

AF is raise%+bet%/call%. Playing 60 out of 100 hands, even if the guy calls a lot, he still bets a lot. To have an AF of ~1.5, he'd actually bet+raise more than he calls (35/25=1.4)

Never going to showdown would be represented by a low WtSD%.


6max is like FR with the first 3 guys folding.

[Wooderson]

Originally Posted by Poboy

AF is raise%+bet%/call%. Playing 60 out of 100 hands, even if the guy calls a lot, he still bets a lot. To have an AF of ~1.5, he'd actually bet+raise more than he calls (35/25=1.4)

Never going to showdown would be represented by a low WtSD%.


6max is like FR with the first 3 guys folding.

That's why I said semi-disagree. I just have a feeling - probability aside - that someone playing like this bluffs a lot, may 3 bet a good bit but also probably folds on the turn or river a lot to aggression unless they have the nuts.

[Poboy]

Originally Posted by Wooderson

That's why I said semi-disagree. I just have a feeling - probability aside - that someone playing like this bluffs a lot, may 3 bet a good bit but also probably folds on the turn or river a lot to aggression unless they have the nuts.

That depends on what his turn and/or river AF is, and went to SD% is. I think the point that we're both making is that the numbers are not independent of each other.
If I were designating which numbers to use in PAHUD, I'd probably have VPIP, PrFRaise, FTCB, AF (excluding preflop), and WTSD