[monkeydog]

Originally Posted by Poboy

We don't know what game he's playing, so we can't make any inferences as to hand ranges other than what I posted - high VPIP=wide range.

Agreed, that was what I was trying to get at without reading your post until after .

[AceOnRiver]

hers my take.i may be way off but this is how i use them.

VPIP
10 and below=solid rock
10-15=very tight
25-15=pretty tight
25-35=average
35 and up=fish/chaser/maniac

Pre-Flop Raise %
0-5=big pairs
5-10=big cards,big pairs
10-15=big cards,big pairs,medium pair,
15-20=big cards,big pairs,medium pair,suited connectors,stealing raise
20 and up=any two cards

Overall Aggression(AF)
0-1=pretty passive
1-2=average(plays when he has somewhat of a hand)
2-3=pretty aggressive(puts pressure on you,bluffs some)
3 and up=very aggressive(maniac depending on the number)

this is how i look at the numbers and make reads on players.i look at their stats and use them to see how they play.then make a read accordingly.as i said i could be way off here.this is just my opinion.

i would like to get some feedback on my thoughts for these stats.does this seem right or close to right?if not what is wrong?or am i way off?

[hachkc]

Originally Posted by AceOnRiver

hers my take.i may be way off but this is how i use them.

VPIP
10 and below=solid rock
10-15=very tight
25-15=pretty tight
25-35=average
35 and up=fish/chaser/maniac

I assume this is at 6max?

I think there is a lot of variation between a 15 and 25 let you seem to lump them in one category.

[Poboy]

Originally Posted by AceOnRiver

hers my take.i may be way off but this is how i use them.

VPIP
10 and below=solid rock
10-15=very tight
25-15=pretty tight
25-35=average
35 and up=fish/chaser/maniac

Pre-Flop Raise %
0-5=big pairs
5-10=big cards,big pairs
10-15=big cards,big pairs,medium pair,
15-20=big cards,big pairs,medium pair,suited connectors,stealing raise
20 and up=any two cards

Overall Aggression(AF)
0-1=pretty passive
1-2=average(plays when he has somewhat of a hand)
2-3=pretty aggressive(puts pressure on you,bluffs some)
3 and up=very aggressive(maniac depending on the number)

this is how i look at the numbers and make reads on players.i look at their stats and use them to see how they play.then make a read accordingly.as i said i could be way off here.this is just my opinion.

i would like to get some feedback on my thoughts for these stats.does this seem right or close to right?if not what is wrong?or am i way off?

FR, 6max? NL, limit?

You have to be careful separating out like that. For example, a 60 VPIP guy with a 1.5 AF is actually pretty aggressive. If this guy was playing that many hands and had an AF of 3, he'd be insane.

[coyote]

Interesting stuff. Right now I'm playing alot of .25/.50 NL, full table. I just haven't been able to force myself over to the 6max stuff yet. probably another mistake on my part.

[hachkc]

Originally Posted by coyote

Interesting stuff. Right now I'm playing alot of .25/.50 NL, full table. I just haven't been able to force myself over to the 6max stuff yet. probably another mistake on my part.

Ditto.

I just can't convince myself to move to 6max though I've tried a little bit by dropping down a level (.10/.25NL). Guess I don't like leaving my comfort zone.

[Wooderson]

Originally Posted by coyote

Interesting stuff. Right now I'm playing alot of .25/.50 NL, full table. I just haven't been able to force myself over to the 6max stuff yet. probably another mistake on my part.

Originally Posted by hachkc

I just can't convince myself to move to 6max

This is a leak.

I semi-disagree about someone being 60/x/1.5 being very aggressive. That's more than likely someone that likes to raise early but never goes to showdown without the nuts, probably folds to 50% of flop bets or if raised and folds to 90% of turn bets. I am assuming 6max here.

[hachkc]

Are you saying my inability to move to 6max is a leak?

[coyote]

I don't think "leak" is the right term for not wanting to move to 6max....

But by all accounts I think we're certainly ignoring a +ev situation. For me though, that's assuming I could adjust my game.... If I couldn't, then THAT is the leak I guess.

[hachkc]

Originally Posted by coyote

I don't think "leak" is the right term for not wanting to move to 6max....

But by all accounts I think we're certainly ignoring a +ev situation. For me though, that's assuming I could adjust my game.... If I couldn't, then THAT is the leak I guess.

True, though I personally haven't been willing to put the effort into it as my comfort zone is FR NLHE. Then again, my comfortzone used to be PLO8 so I can change