[AceOnRiver]

I am ready to go to the mental hospital right now at 1 a.m. in the morning.at the same time im ready to rip my entire house down with my bare hands.i play .25/.50 on P*.i have lost $575 in about the last month and i dont even play everyday.here are a few hands that i want to let someone hear.if you dont like it i dont care.they are all bad beats.and as the title says its not varience anymore.i refuse to believe it.so you might as well not even post it.im sure some of you will to be funny.i have been playin ppoker for 5 years and i know what varience is and what it can do.this is not it anymore.these bad beats you will read have been happeneing to me for the last 1-2 months.cold deck after cold deck after cold deck.suck out after suck out after suck out.i havent had a winning session for about 3 weeks.

by the way all these hands are just in the last 2 days of playing.i played 1 table for about 2-3 hours each day.and these are just the ones on the top of my head.

1)me-KhJh flop 3h4h5h i bet we get all in he has Ah10h he wins $105

2)me-QQ flop J73i bet get called turn 10 we get all in he has KK he wins $99

3)3HANDED me-JJ get called flop 236 two hearts bet get called turn 10 we get all in he shows 45 offsuit!!!WTF he wins $105

4)me-QQ get all in preflop he has A8 and hits 3 outerhe wins $80

5)me-1010 get called by maniac flop J 2 5 bet turn 8 i bet river 2 both check he shows J7!!!WTF he wins $35

6)me 1010 flop 8 6 2 three players i bet both call turn 9 i put both asll in fir about 20 both call river A guy shows A8 he wins $70.

thats all i can think of from the top of my head.im positive ther eis more than that.the hands on PT are on my laptop.and to top it off i cant hit a draw for the love of god.2 overs and a flush draw 4-5 times tonight and cant hit if i called pokerstars and paid them i still wouldnt be able to hit.i have tried everything i know how to do.ive played like a maniac ive played tight ive been selectivelyt aggressive.nothing works

i have stopped and thought out the whole hand 5 times tonight on very big hands.EVERY SINGLE one i have been shown a bluff.on the other hand i do the same thing and think out the hand and call they show a better hand.it just doesnt seem to matter what i do.i lose.

so to sum it up i want advice.what in the hell am i supposed to do.plaese give me some useful advice.i usually see threads like this and people say suck it up and play or well thats varience.i dont buy that anymore.i have been playing poker for 5 years now and have never seen anything like this in my life.it is absolutely rediculous.

so if you have some useful advise plaease let me know what to do.please dont reply if your going to say it happens or thats varience.as i have said i know what varience is i have been playin for 5 years i have had some bad streaks before but this is beyond varience.

if this has happened to you before please let me know what you did to get through it and what you think i should do.thanks for letting me vent.

[Irish Se7en]

Honestly, you need to take a break. You seem to be on mega tilt judging by your post. You may not be but again reading your post, you definitely need a break.

Throwing this out there, play some SNG's, try something different.

Best of luck, I'm sure you'll get some better advice from he masses.


Irish

[abby99]

I have had similar bad runs, and you have my utmost sympathy. I got through them, and so will you. My advice is to do something different for a while, but don't just keep slogging your way though a very bad run. Sometimes when I'm running bad I switch to a different site, play a different game, or learn an entirely new game with play money. Other times I just stay away from the game altogether for anywhere from two weeks to a few months. Every time I've done that, I've come back to the game refreshed and with a positive attitude. Good luck, Ace.

[xtwalker]

I am going through something similar in live games... started with the worst call of my life QQ v KK and dropped over a grand on it... Then the bad cards started flowing... one night I flopped 3 open ended straight flush draws and didn't his a straight or a flush on any of them... next day AA beat by 88; KK beat by 99, Q8, and AA. The following day I had KK beaten by A8, AJ; QQ beat by flush and by AK... AK beaten by A2 twice... it goes on.

I know I had a few hands that went the other way, but they are harder to remember. All in all, I noticed it was affecting my play Saturday night, and I haven't played a cash game since... there have been a couple tourneys that I played in and played poorly bc I was card dead and let it get to me.

Then of course, I didn't want to play cash games, but still wanted to play my sunday tourney which led to an even worse beat, described here: http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/poker-...light=bad+beat

Personally, I am taking a week off. That is a huge break for me. I think it would be very expensive for me over the nxt few weeks if I don't take the break now though.

Recommend you do the same. Just take a breather as a few loosing sessions can really bite that bank roll. Read a book, watch a movie, spend time with the wife. I am trying to do all 3 this week =)

[Stocktrader]

Heya Ace,

I find that when I'm having a bad run of cards/luck, I run home and play Head to Head.

Have had a nice profit, starting playing larger tournys. Back to H2H to rebuild my stake.

Best of luck,

Stock

[Big Mike]

As others have said, switching games helps a lot. When I run cold playing sixmax limit (my main game nowadays), I play NL or HORSE sit n' gos. The built in stop-loss of the sng helps keep me on an even keel even when I take the worst beats there.

The other thing is, maybe you're right, it's NOT variance, perhaps you no longer are playing winning poker? (/ducks)
Several of the examples you have there aren't really beats (i know you don't care) but you getting your money in bad. You don't state stack sizes particularly, but perhaps you should be less willing to go broke with one pair ie hands 2+3.

Good luck at the tables, hope your can turn it around.

Mike

[TheMightyJim2k]

I know the title says one thing....but lets hope it is variance otherwise you are a bad player.

My guess is this: You are a slightly winning player, who is experiencing a bad run that is expected to happen at some point in your life. They ran some very detailed stats on this on 2p2, but even very very very good players are expected to have a really horrible run over the course of their poker playing careers. What is even scarier is that they should be having runs like that quite a bit.

So what does that mean for players like you and me that are winners, but not one of the greats of the game? It means we are going to have bad runs, and they are going to be worse and more frequent since we make more mistakes that compound with our bad luck.

The good news is that you are only down 11.5 buy-ins, and that isn't as horrible as it seems. The bad news is that your post indicates that you are probably starting to tilt a little bit. I know I tilted pretty bad for at least one session late in march at the end of that horrid horrid month. Once I realized it I shifted to 7-stud H/L for about a week. I was playing low stakes (.25/.5 and .5/1) but I wasn't worried as much about the outcome, and I knew I would make mistakes since I was still learning the game. When I cam back I felt refreshed and enjoyed the game again (at least until I started running awful again in late April ).

just make sure you understand that the bottom end of horrible variance is one of those things that noone really gets....until it happens to them. If you can avoid massive tilt, mentally survive the downswing, and keep at least a decent part of your bankroll intact then you will be a significantly better player for it.

GL!

[A-Ro]

If you're a good player, bad runs will teach you patience. You'll learn not to play certain hands in certain situations and learn to see signs when you're beat so you know to get out.

[hachkc]

Variance sucks but it happens. I had a run about 3mos ago where I lost a similar amount over about 3 weeks, see here. I made all of it back in a couple of days to have a break even month; keep your chin up. Best advice is to find something else to do whether its a different game (Omaha, stud, bingo, etc).

From the hands you posted, it does sound like you are tilting a bit (pushing hard with moderate hands) so walk away for a bit.

[A-Ro]

Also, make sure you're not playing outside your bankroll. As your roll drops, you should drop in stakes (don't be prideful).

I adapted this for my game from something I read from C Ferguson:

Bankroll Mgt:
up to $100 = $2.50 s&g or .05/.10NL; $1 multi table tourney
$100 = $5 s&g or .10/.25NL; $2.50 mutli table tourney
$200 = $10 s&g or .25/50NL; $5 multi table tourney
$400 = $20 s&g or .50/1NL; $10 multi table tourney
$800 = $40 s&g or 1/2NL; $20 multi table tourney
$1800 = $100 s&g or 2/5NL; $50 multi table tourney
$3800 = $200 s&g or 5/10NL; $100 multi table tourney

If my bankroll drops below a level, I force myself to drop the stakes. It helps nullify the "bad runs" that are inherent to not be so bad.