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Old 04-17-2007, 06:53 PM
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Are there bots on P*?

How do you call two all-ins in front of you with K-6 offsuit?

PokerStars Game #9475162565: Tournament #48105156, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/04/17 - 19:50:22 (ET)
Table '48105156 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: WedgeRock (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: rbfour (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: Xenocard (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: jr1172 (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: ncm360 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: DeuceNoLoose (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Mr_Boombasti (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: Stack2195 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: fatdude_420 (1500 in chips)
rbfour: posts small blind 10
Xenocard: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WedgeRock [2s 8s]
jr1172: calls 20
ncm360: folds
DeuceNoLoose: calls 20
Mr_Boombasti: raises 1480 to 1500 and is all-in
Stack2195: calls 1500 and is all-in
fatdude_420: folds
WedgeRock: folds
rbfour: folds
Xenocard: folds
jr1172: calls 1480 and is all-in
DeuceNoLoose: folds
*** FLOP *** [3h 6c 6h]
*** TURN *** [3h 6c 6h] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [3h 6c 6h 9c] [Jd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jr1172: shows [Kh 6s] (three of a kind, Sixes)
Mr_Boombasti: shows [Ac Kd] (a pair of Sixes)
Stack2195: shows [Td Ks] (a pair of Sixes)
jr1172 collected 4550 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4550 | Rake 0
Board [3h 6c 6h 9c Jd]
Seat 1: WedgeRock (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: rbfour (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Xenocard (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: jr1172 showed [Kh 6s] and won (4550) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 5: ncm360 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: DeuceNoLoose folded before Flop
Seat 7: Mr_Boombasti showed [Ac Kd] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 8: Stack2195 showed [Td Ks] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 9: fatdude_420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Re: Are there bots on P*?

why does this play suggest a BOT to you?

the problem is that its a $1 tourney so don't expect real poker until the money, IF THEN even.
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Re: Are there bots on P*?

He calls two all-ins in front of him with a K-6 and then hits 6-6-x on the flop to triple up?

Probably not bot play, because it is too ridiculous. But why (other than that this was a $1 sng) would you make that call?

I've read that the cards are not pre-determined, so there's no way to know what cards are coming until the cards are flipped.
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why does this play suggest a BOT to you?
Ha, I was wondering the same thing - would think that a bot would be programmed to play premium cards, not K6. I wouldn't be surprised if some people try to use bots now and again, but my understanding is they are really hard to make effectively. I think it's because poker is a partial information game (as opposed to full information, like chess). I would also think they would be more common in limit games or even NL cash games than tournies (less parameters). But what do I know, I'm will concede any of these speculations pretty quickly. So I guess I would say, meh, maybe there's bots, but I doubt they are that effective or stick around for very long.

I suspect you meant a pattern-mapper, as opposed to a bot, given the hand. I'm dubious that actually works. I trust the third-party reviews of the shuffling protocols.

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But why (other than that this was a $1 sng) would you make that call?
BECAUSE it is a $1 SNG.
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Re: Are there bots on P*?

I see it in $5 SNG's, $10 SNG's (and not just the CT games... ) and $20 SNG's too...

I guess I am looking for an explanation on how anyone can make that call. And I guess the only answer is its a guy with more free time than poker sense.

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I see it in $5 SNG's, $10 SNG's (and not just the CT games... ) and $20 SNG's too...

I guess I am looking for an explanation on how anyone can make that call. And I guess the only answer is its a guy with more free time than poker sense.

Thanks for the kink, luckychick.
When I was playing $500+ buy-in NL cash games on a many Gs bank roll, when bored i played online with a multi hundred dollar bank roll.

And guess what, I did not take any SNGs below $70 buy-in serious.
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Point taken.
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Point taken.
Its all relative, right?

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Shhhhh... you weren't supposed to tell anyone!

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