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Open up or stay the course?

I decided to put some additional money into Poker Stars. I figured I would jump into the cash games. I only had time to play for an hour plus today and played very few hands. Below are some of the hands I played and how I played them. I'm looking to see if the hands were played well or if I could have played them differently. I mostly played position, though I did come in early (raise) once with A/K.

Also, should I open up my game or play somewhat tight/aggressive?

Lastly, what is a good book on cash games?


PokerStars Game #9002023504: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/03/20 - 17:05:51 (ET)
Table 'Prospero III' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: royalaa101 ($33 in chips)
Seat 2: Irish Se7en ($98 in chips)
Seat 4: billsir ($86.45 in chips)
Seat 5: stolze ($30 in chips)
Seat 6: rebam ($106.55 in chips)
Seat 7: Dittsche_66 ($96.05 in chips)
Seat 8: flubsky ($99 in chips)
Seat 9: Paaapaa ($84.05 in chips)
MOMUS_2006 will be allowed to play after the button
billsir: posts small blind $0.50
stolze: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Irish Se7en [Jh Qh]
rebam: folds
Dittsche_66: folds
flubsky: folds
Paaapaa: folds
royalaa101: calls $1
Irish Se7en: calls $1
billsir: calls $0.50
stolze: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qd Kd 4c]
billsir: checks
stolze: checks
royalaa101: checks
Irish Se7en: bets $3
billsir: folds
stolze: folds
royalaa101: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Qd Kd 4c] [7c]
royalaa101: bets $1
Irish Se7en: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [Qd Kd 4c 7c] [2c]
royalaa101: bets $8
Irish Se7en: calls $8
*** SHOW DOWN ***
royalaa101: shows [Ad Th] (high card Ace)
Irish Se7en: shows [Jh Qh] (a pair of Queens)
Irish Se7en collected $26.65 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $28 | Rake $1.35
Board [Qd Kd 4c 7c 2c]
Seat 1: royalaa101 showed [Ad Th] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: Irish Se7en (button) showed [Jh Qh] and won ($26.65) with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: billsir (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: stolze (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: rebam folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Dittsche_66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: flubsky folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Paaapaa folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #9002217572: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/03/20 - 17:18:01 (ET)
Table 'Prospero III' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: royalaa101 ($16.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Irish Se7en ($112.15 in chips)
Seat 3: MOMUS_2006 ($113.50 in chips)
Seat 4: billsir ($76.75 in chips)
Seat 5: stolze ($19.50 in chips)
Seat 6: bigbaddanny ($84.70 in chips)
Seat 7: Dittsche_66 ($90.35 in chips)
Seat 8: flubsky ($96.70 in chips)
Seat 9: LIONHEARTFF8 ($98.50 in chips)
MOMUS_2006: posts small blind $0.50
billsir: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Irish Se7en [9d 9s]
stolze: folds
bigbaddanny: folds
Dittsche_66: folds
flubsky: folds
LIONHEARTFF8: folds
royalaa101: calls $1
Irish Se7en: raises $3 to $4
MOMUS_2006: folds
billsir: folds
royalaa101: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Kh 4d Ac]
royalaa101: checks
Irish Se7en: bets $5
royalaa101: folds
Irish Se7en collected $9.05 from pot
Irish Se7en: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.50 | Rake $0.45
Board [Kh 4d Ac]
Seat 1: royalaa101 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Irish Se7en (button) collected ($9.05)
Seat 3: MOMUS_2006 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: billsir (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: stolze folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bigbaddanny folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Dittsche_66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: flubsky folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: LIONHEARTFF8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #9002339248: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/03/20 - 17:25:38 (ET)
Table 'Prospero III' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: royalaa101 ($21.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Irish Se7en ($117.20 in chips)
Seat 3: MOMUS_2006 ($119.35 in chips)
Seat 4: billsir ($65.05 in chips)
Seat 5: stolze ($22.10 in chips)
Seat 6: bigbaddanny ($79.70 in chips)
Seat 7: Dittsche_66 ($79.35 in chips)
Seat 8: aces_up4108 ($91.20 in chips)
Seat 9: LIONHEARTFF8 ($100 in chips)
MOMUS_2006: posts small blind $0.50
billsir: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Irish Se7en [Qc As]
stolze: folds
bigbaddanny: folds
Dittsche_66: folds
aces_up4108: folds
LIONHEARTFF8: folds
royalaa101: calls $1
Irish Se7en: calls $1
MOMUS_2006: folds
billsir: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jd Qd 6d]
billsir: checks
royalaa101: checks
Irish Se7en: bets $2
billsir: folds
royalaa101: calls $2
*** TURN *** [Jd Qd 6d] [Qh]
royalaa101: checks
Irish Se7en: bets $4
royalaa101: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [Jd Qd 6d Qh] [Kc]
royalaa101: bets $4
Irish Se7en: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
royalaa101: shows [Ad Kh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
Irish Se7en: shows [Qc As] (three of a kind, Queens)
Irish Se7en collected $22.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $23.50 | Rake $1.10
Board [Jd Qd 6d Qh Kc]
Seat 1: royalaa101 showed [Ad Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 2: Irish Se7en (button) showed [Qc As] and won ($22.40) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 3: MOMUS_2006 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: billsir (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: stolze folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bigbaddanny folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Dittsche_66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: aces_up4108 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: LIONHEARTFF8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #9002577547: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/03/20 - 17:40:00 (ET)
Table 'Prospero III' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: ClarkClark ($99 in chips)
Seat 2: Irish Se7en ($125.45 in chips)
Seat 3: MOMUS_2006 ($110.90 in chips)
Seat 4: billsir ($28.25 in chips)
Seat 5: SLV11 ($66.20 in chips)
Seat 6: bigbaddanny ($51.40 in chips)
Seat 7: Dittsche_66 ($78.50 in chips)
Seat 8: aces_up4108 ($132.10 in chips)
Seat 9: LIONHEARTFF8 ($109.30 in chips)
SLV11: posts small blind $0.50
bigbaddanny: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Irish Se7en [Th Tc]
Dittsche_66: folds
aces_up4108: folds
LIONHEARTFF8: folds
ClarkClark: folds
Irish Se7en: raises $3 to $4
MOMUS_2006: folds
billsir: folds
SLV11: folds
bigbaddanny: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Ah Ac 3h]
bigbaddanny: checks
Irish Se7en: bets $5
bigbaddanny: raises $10 to $15
Irish Se7en: folds
bigbaddanny collected $17.60 from pot
bigbaddanny: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $18.50 | Rake $0.90
Board [Ah Ac 3h]
Seat 1: ClarkClark folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Irish Se7en folded on the Flop
Seat 3: MOMUS_2006 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: billsir (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SLV11 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: bigbaddanny (big blind) collected ($17.60)
Seat 7: Dittsche_66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: aces_up4108 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: LIONHEARTFF8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

On this last hand, does anyone put him on an Ace? Flush draw or just a good bluff?



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Old 03-20-2007, 11:51 PM
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Re: Open up or stay the course?

I suggest one hand per post, and leave out the results.

Hand one, why did you call the turn?

Hand 2, std.

Hand 3, raise preflop, bet the pot on the river.

Hand 4, I probably bet closer to pot, otherwise std.
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Re: Open up or stay the course?

Well, in the other 2 hands bigdaddy was in, he folded when all he had to do was call the BB. I'd say he could definitely have an ace or a big pair.

Now I have to ask: you did put royalaa101 on your buddy list, right?
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Re: Open up or stay the course?

I agree leave the results out bc it tends to scew the views.

Hand 1: I raise it up OTB. Turn ?????

Hand 2: Standard

Hand 3: Raise preflop. Rive I raise it to 3/4-pot

Hand 4: I lead for $8 or approx 3/4 pot. Otherwise looks good.
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I suggest one hand per post, and leave out the results.

Hand one, why did you call the turn?

Hand 2, std.

Hand 3, raise preflop, bet the pot on the river.

Hand 4, I probably bet closer to pot, otherwise std.
Poboy point taken on post.

On hand one, I didn't think he hit the King, so I bet out since it was checked to me. He (royalwithcheese) called. Turn he bet $1 and I thought of reraising him but didn't now know if he had had a weak King. I also thought he may have been chasing the flush. So I just called. On the river, I believed he was just attempting to steal as he missed his flush and called. It turned out he missed his straight.

Hand three: Royal again limps in with the best hand. If I raise (now that I know what he has) he pushes all in. Now I know I'm only out $3 or $4 if I fold but would you call his all in with A/Q unsuited? He limped in a few times with the best hand and I won some pots off him. Later on he just pushed all in with any ace rag and lucked out twice. You are correct that I should have raised but I had a feeling.

poboy again thanks for the advice and insight.

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For a NL book, I can suggest "NL Holdem, Theory and Practice" by Ed Miller, Sklansky. Harrington is suppose to be coming out with a NL cash game book soon.
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Well, in the other 2 hands bigdaddy was in, he folded when all he had to do was call the BB. I'd say he could definitely have an ace or a big pair.

Now I have to ask: you did put royalaa101 on your buddy list, right?
I learned a little more about bigdaddy and he either had a/rag or he made a nice bluff on my weak continuation bet.

As or putting royal on my buddy list, I think some of them should put me on theirs, I still have a long way to go in Cash games and in poker in general.

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I agree leave the results out bc it tends to scew the views.

Hand 1: I raise it up OTB. Turn ?????

Hand 2: Standard

Hand 3: Raise preflop. Rive I raise it to 3/4-pot

Hand 4: I lead for $8 or approx 3/4 pot. Otherwise looks good.
On Hand 1 should I have reraised him instead of calling? I had every intention on raising it up on the button but I didn't (weak).

Hand 3: wimp > me. In a SNG in that position, I'm absolutley raising but for whatever reason I wimped out. I had a feeling before the flop and played the hand to cautiously.


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For a NL book, I can suggest "NL Holdem, Theory and Practice" by Ed Miller, Sklansky. Harrington is suppose to be coming out with a NL cash game book soon.

Thanks dad604, I will be hitting the book store tomorrow and will look for it. I was just going to ask that question again.
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Ur welcome. If you find any other good NL cash game book, let me know. NLH, T+H was the only good NL cash book I have came across. That is why I will be interested in Harrington's book when it comes out. Ed Miller's "Getting Started in Holdem" has a short section NL but it is very elementary geared towards the very basic beginner.
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I learned a little more about bigdaddy and he either had a/rag or he made a nice bluff on my weak continuation bet.

As or putting royal on my buddy list, I think some of them should put me on theirs, I still have a long way to go in Cash games and in poker in general.



On Hand 1 should I have reraised him instead of calling? I had every intention on raising it up on the button but I didn't (weak).

Hand 3: wimp > me. In a SNG in that position, I'm absolutley raising but for whatever reason I wimped out. I had a feeling before the flop and played the hand to cautiously.


thanks littlebu & aquaman
On hand one I would have raised OTB against an unknown limper, calling isn't bad but not my normal play there.

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For a NL book, I can suggest "NL Holdem, Theory and Practice" by Ed Miller, Sklansky. Harrington is suppose to be coming out with a NL cash game book soon.
Excellent book. Haven't heard about Harrington's but I'll def. pick it up if he does.
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