[hachkc]

Both players are solid tight players. I've been getting no action on any decent hands preflop and I'm getting ready to leave this table. As soon as I get these 2 callers, I'm not thrilled. I figure probably pp's, AK, shermod might even have AA.

The check/raise on the flop was a plan to get more information or possibly extract a larger pot. Not how I typically play this hand but I figure, if they have nothing I win a small pot as no callers while the C/R might add a little bit of profit. I was not happy when shermod called the C/R especially after he wasn't the original bettor.

Saw Flop | Saw Turn | Saw River | Saw Showdown | Won

PokerStars Game #7936645870: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/01/14 - 16:54:54 (ET)
Table 'Minerva V' 9-max Seat #5 is the button

Shermod - $45.25
pythonn - $149.30
Bodard Button - $31.35
oli1980 - $52.60
Jack1eye - $30
nestori muna - $53.05
CmdrPenguin - $32.65

PREFLOP ($0.25/$0.50)
CmdrPenguin is UTG+1 with K K
1 fold, CmdrPenguin raises $1.50 to $2
, Shermod calls $2
, pythonn calls $2
, 3 folds.

FLOP $6.75 (3 players)
6 7 2
CmdrPenguin checks, Shermod checks, pythonn bets $2.50
, CmdrPenguin raises $7.50 to $10
, Shermod calls $10
, 1 fold.

TURN $29.25 (2 players)
6 7 2 6

On the turn I should?

[spyder2k4]

if hes tight and he has called a raise pre-flop chances r he has either go 2 high cards eg, AQ, AK or some sorts of pocket pair, mid to high.
if he then calls a C/R on the flop i dont think its impossible for u to put him on a set or another overpair. Whether he has AA tho. id probably bet at it again. but thats me and id bet at anything

[jadillon]

Yes, true pre-flop spyder, but do you think he would call $10 into a $16 pot with AQ or AK after that flop? If he would make that call like that with just overcards, then maybe . . . . Just me, but if villian wouldn't likely make such a call, you may be up against 77 or 66 and a made full house or even quads by the turn. Outs may be few or non-existent. Tough one. But my skills pale compared to others! Or so I want you to think. . . .

[Poboy]

I'm definitely leading this flop.


As is, I check/fold. I want to lead, but with our stack size, seems like a spew.

[burnvalley]

Some people don't like it but I would almost bet out $15 a blocking type bet. Not to much where it eats you alive but not low enough where its an easy reraise. I would say QQ to TT. AA you are just beat.

[Harlequin011]

Now there are two draws on the board.

$20 bet into this puppy. If a non-ace blank falls. bet 5 on the river to get paid off.

[hachkc]

Originally Posted by burnvalley

Some people don't like it but I would almost bet out $15 a blocking type bet. Not to much where it eats you alive but not low enough where its an easy reraise. I would say QQ to TT. AA you are just beat.

I only have $20 and change left when the turn rolls around and the pots $29; shermod's got about $33 left.

[burnvalley]

sorry forgot to figure that in. I say you put it all in and let it all hang loose.

[Harlequin011]

Originally Posted by hachkc

I only have $20 and change left when the turn rolls around and the pots $29; shermod's got about $33 left.

Then I say push.

But something is triggering spidey sense... He's got to be calling with something. I wonder if he is just letting you hang yourself.

He may be slow playing a set her, which just boated or turned quads.

I still say push. The call indicates draw, slowplay, or second best pair. Like JJ

[TheMightyJim2k]

any reads on these players?

the only draw out there on the flop is 89, and if he is a decent player he isnt calling that check raise with an OESD unless he is positive he can stack you for the implied odds.

If this guy is good he probably has a pkt pair 66-AA. You are beating: 88,99,TT,JJ,QQ

you are tied with KK

you are behind 66 (and drawing dead), 77, AA.

I would assume he would have likely folded 88, and 99 after your flop checkraise. If he has TT,JJ, or QQ that turn card is as scary for him as it is for you.

A push is only getting called by hands beating you 66,77, and AA (but not always), and probably rarely getting called by the hands you are beating 88-QQ. The only value to a push is the possibly small amount of fold equity against AA, but I don't this even comes close to how -EV this play is.

You either need to make another $10 bet or so which might get called down by the hands you are beating, and wil probably prompt an all-in from the hands you are losing too, or just check and see what he does. You are better off giving him some rope to hang himself if he is ahead, then trying to blast him with a rocket launcher and scaring him off.

I'm checking the turn and either calling or folding based on my read.

BTW I don't like the flop checkraise. You are building a big pot and committing the rest of your stack with only a pair. He is also getting like 2.5-1 to call which he will with a lot of hands and you are very unlikely to improve beyond a pair by the river. I would lead for about $4 into this pot and see what develops.