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Old 01-10-2007, 01:51 PM
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Re: Neteller WARNING !!! ---- MUST READ !!!

I too had a neteller account with a Gmail address. "Had". I just closed it, based on principle alone since I had no money with them. But security breaches are security breaches and if they are not willing to even offer any assistance, well they are not a vendor I will deal through.

Now to go change all my passwords lol.

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Re: Neteller WARNING !!! ---- MUST READ !!!

first off, glad to hear things are working out Brian.

second. There is no such thing as a secure system. It would only be a matter of time before a determined cracker will breach a system. Consider security like a time rating on a safe.

It will take XXX days to brake your password/breach a system. It would be good to contact Google/Gmail to see if you've had several failed attempts to get into your system.

Do you use WIFI anywhere Brian? I'm going to ask Jamby the same thing.
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Re: Neteller WARNING !!! ---- MUST READ !!!

Nope.

No WIFI.

I will contact Gmail to see what they have to say.
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Brian,

Was gmail able to provide you with copies of the emails that the perp sent and received using your gmail account? The headers might provide some useful information.

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Re: Neteller WARNING !!! ---- MUST READ !!!

Maybe I just missed this in all the posts, but what is and EFT?
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Re: Neteller WARNING !!! ---- MUST READ !!!

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Maybe I just missed this in all the posts, but what is and EFT?
EFT is electronic funds transfer. Its used to move funds from your bank account into neteller and back.
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EFT is electronic funds transfer. Its used to move funds from your bank account into neteller and back.
I have not done to many of these lately, that's why I didn't know.

Anyway, just went into my bank account to see about fraud issues, etc. and came to this page...if this helps anyone.

Maybe you can file a claim with the FTC Federal Trade Commission?

Step-by-Step Fraud Resolution


Step By Step Fraud Resolution Back to TopIf you think your identity has been stolen, here's what to do now:


1) Contact the fraud departments of any one of the three major credit bureaus to place a fraud alert on your credit file. The fraud alert requests creditors to contact you before opening any new accounts or making any changes to your existing accounts. As soon as the credit bureau confirms your fraud alert, the other two credit bureaus will be automatically notified, and all three credit reports will be sent to you free of charge.
2) Close accounts that you know or believe have been tampered with or opened fraudulently. Use the ID Theft Affidavit (PDF) when disputing new unauthorized accounts.
3) File a police report. Get a copy of the report to submit to your creditors and others that may require proof of the crime.
4) File your complaint with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC maintains a database of identity theft cases used by law enforcement agencies for investigations. Filing a complaint also helps the FTC gather more information about identity theft and the problems victims are having.
For more information, go to: http://www.consumer.gov/idtheft/.
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Re: Neteller WARNING !!! ---- MUST READ !!!

Has anybody figured out for sure that there is a link between gmail accounts and these Neteller breaches? I have a hard time believing that there's a big security hole in the gmail system that hasn't made major news, Google being so big, popular, and wealthy. Gmail's web interface is secured over SSL as is their POP3 access.

I've recently started using gmail as my main email interface, because of their great mobile mail-app and spam filtering, and I'd be very interested to find out about any security breach on their end.
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Re: Neteller WARNING !!! ---- MUST READ !!!

I just pulled the plug on the neteller link to my checking.
I called, was put on hold 3x, 2 of the 3x it started ringing after 10 minutes on hold then hung up. The 3rd time I got thru.
from my confirmation email:
"About NETELLER
NETELLER uses international banking infrastructure to provide secure, convenient fund transfers around the world. With two million members, over 1,700 supported online merchants and $3.4 billion in transactions processed in 2004, NETELLER is a leader in online payment services. Providing award-winning multilingual customer service, available 24 hours a day via phone, email or live chat, NETELLER offers exceptional service along with industry-leading security to ensure your personal details remain safe. NETELLER PLC is listed on the London AIM market
(Ticker: NLR). "

You think they would be more responsive to those who have been attacked. Word will certianly get around and it is bad for business.
Think the shareholders would be interested in all this hacking?

BTW is this only happening to people that use free email services?.
I would suggest paying the $10-15 yearly to get email with a reputable email provider.
Also, using a better email password. I'm guilty of using simple email passwords.
However, I cant see how them getting your email password and then your NT passwpord would also get them all of your other NT account info needed in order to log in? Where are they getting that? Was it included in the 'send me password' email?
I'll have to try it (with my own account of course).

I had a suspect email sent to me by Captal1 (huge U.S.bank) linking to a site to for me enter 'security' information due to recent suspicious activity.
I reported it to C1 and was on hold forever, and could not find anyone interested in getting a copy of the email or in the link it had leading to the rip off site. They just told me to ignore the email!
Trying to do the right thing should not be so infuriating.
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Re: Neteller WARNING !!! ---- MUST READ !!!

Here is an interesting link I found while googling "gmail issues"


http://www.templetons.com/brad/gmail.html
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