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Old 01-05-2007, 12:15 PM
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Re: My Neteller & PokerStars accounts compromised - already lost over $1100

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It is extremely suspicious that you know the person that got your funds. Do you know them in "Real Life" or strictly online? Has that person ever been anywhere near your computers or network?
I don't think Jamby actually know the person, just that she got the persons info from the poker site that the money went to.

Atleast thats how I understood it.
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Re: My Neteller & PokerStars accounts compromised - already lost over $1100

Reading 2+2 this morning and noticed at least two instances where someone has been hacked through neteller and poker sites just like jamby.

there is some good info in this thread.

I think it is clear from Jamby's case that everyone should be changing their passwords pretty frequently on these things. It may be that Neteller has a crack that is being exploited, but at least you can do what you can to keep your end safe.
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Re: My Neteller & PokerStars accounts compromised - already lost over $1100

I just got a response from ParadiseBet LTD. Not at all helpful to this investigation so I wrote them back asking what initial account the funds went into at their site since the NT outgoing transaction was a single one for $750.

We forwarded this query to our poker department to investigate as the money (750 USD ) that was deposited via Neteller in a new account opened yesterday was played in poker.

We have just received information that the money was not passed to any player in particular and was unfortunately lost to many players.

As such we are unable to retrieve the funds.

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Re: My Neteller & PokerStars accounts compromised - already lost over $1100

Excellent find Jim. I never visit 2+2. Are you a member there? If so and if you want to post the abbreviated version of what is going on in my case that would be OK with me.

I have thought all along that NT is the culprit here as the other accounts are available within the NT history. In mycase, I have had other online poker accounts in the past - PokerRoom, Doyle's Room, Titan, Empire Poker. None of them had any funds on deposit though. I'm thinking about contacting them all to see if anybody logged in to my accounts and from what IP address.
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Reading 2+2 this morning and noticed at least two instances where someone has been hacked through neteller and poker sites just like jamby.

there is some good info in this thread.

I think it is clear from Jamby's case that everyone should be changing their passwords pretty frequently on these things. It may be that Neteller has a crack that is being exploited, but at least you can do what you can to keep your end safe.
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Re: My Neteller & PokerStars accounts compromised - already lost over $1100

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then got to the feds and make them find out who the guy is.
I have a friend in the Cybercrimes Division of the FBI's Detroit Office. I'm sure he can put you in touch with a local agent... I'll see him Sunday night and can ask him.
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Excellent. Thanks Wedge.
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Excellent. Thanks Wedge.
Chicago, right?
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Yes, suburban Chicago.
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Re: My Neteller & PokerStars accounts compromised - already lost over $1100

Wow, this thread is giving me a real headache too. All this computer techy mumbo jumbo does not help us lay people...so hopefully someday this unfortunate event can be summarized for everyone's benefit if needed.

We can thank the US Government anti gambling legislation for this because now we have little control over offshore financial institutions like these.
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Re: My Neteller & PokerStars accounts compromised - already lost over $1100

I followed up with the ParadiseBet folks by phone and got these additional details regarding the $750 perp. What do you all make of the differing IPs?

The name used was: Bina K Jag-Nathan

Address was 13 Priory Street
Kent
UK TN9 2AP

IP address: 200.124.137.164

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I just got a response from ParadiseBet LTD. Not at all helpful to this investigation so I wrote them back asking what initial account the funds went into at their site since the NT outgoing transaction was a single one for $750.

We forwarded this query to our poker department to investigate as the money (750 USD ) that was deposited via Neteller in a new account opened yesterday was played in poker.

We have just received information that the money was not passed to any player in particular and was unfortunately lost to many players.

As such we are unable to retrieve the funds.

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