[99%evil]

Originally Posted by bob007

I've never played for money online, what are the safeguards against a few guys being online and on the phone telling each other what they have?

Nada, know of people doing this in sit n go's...not a common thing, but it can be done.

[bob007]

Originally Posted by 99%evil

Nada, know of people doing this in sit n go's...not a common thing, but it can be done.

Thanks for the info. Now I'll be sure never to play online for money, it seemed too easy of a system to crack. I have friends from college, etc. all over the country how could the online poker rooms know that there's 3 of us on a conference call sucking all the money away from the other 3 suckers.

At least I'm a millionaire in play money. By the way, what's a sit n go?

[scottwire]

Originally Posted by bob007

Thanks for the info. Now I'll be sure never to play online for money, it seemed too easy of a system to crack. I have friends from college, etc. all over the country how could the online poker rooms know that there's 3 of us on a conference call sucking all the money away from the other 3 suckers.

At least I'm a millionaire in play money. By the way, what's a sit n go?

If you notice people who may be in cahoots with each other, you can easily inform the poker room. They will then check to see if those players often play with each other and go through their play.

I have been playing online for almost 2 years now and in that time I can probably count on one hand the times something has seemed out of the ordinary between two players.

At higher limits there may be more people trying to corrupt the system I don't know, but the lower limit cash games are easily beatable if you put time into studying the game.

Even if someone were trying to manipulate the game, there is an element of luck and no straight formula to "win" at poker. You can still catch top set while they have second set and take all their money. People seem to be afraid of bots but even a bot can be beaten. There is always a counterstrategy to any player's or table's perceived play.

[EmptyPocs]

Originally Posted by jamby

It's happened to me too and I finally found out the reasoning behind it. Credit card thieves routinely use stolen credit cards and counterfeit cards made from stolen numbers at pay-at-the-pump gas stations. They do this initially prior to attempting face-to-face usage to see whether the cards have been cancelled or not. One of my stolen card numbers was used at a Rio de Janiero gas station for two < $3 charges.

I would think anyone wanting to use a card for theft would at least get a full tank...

[jamby]

The intention isn't to buy the gas, rather to charge a buck or two quickly in order to see if the card is valid. The fuel isn't important and in all likelihood they'd rather save the credit line for more meaningful fraudulent purchases. This is all per the fraud protection department at Chase.

Originally Posted by EmptyPocs

I would think anyone wanting to use a card for theft would at least get a full tank...

[Wedge Rock]

1. Why use a telephone to cheat online? Use IM... I'm sure most of the cheaters would use IM before a telephone...

2. a sit n go is a tournament that starts whenever a table fills. A single table SNG will start when 9 players are ready... Multi-table sit n go's (MTT SNG) will fill when there are 18, 27, 36, ... 180 people ready to play... Just depends on the size of the table. These differ from scheduled tournaments in that there is no set starting time... they "go" whenever enough people "sit"...

[yeltzen]

Remember when ya'll reported me and Kat to PokerStars security or whatever for cheating? God, those were the days.

Durrrrrr

[hachkc]

Originally Posted by bob007

I've never played for money online, what are the safeguards against a few guys being online and on the phone telling each other what they have?

As was mentioned, you can report folks if you suspect something and the site will check the HH and as well as whether they have a history of playing together. If this is a big concern for you, then don't play online. I personally am not overly that concerned about it but I've never been in a situation where I suspected it. I play mostly cash games and if I did suspect something, I'd just leave the table and find another.

[texred1]

Originally Posted by jamby

It's happened to me too and I finally found out the reasoning behind it. Credit card thieves routinely use stolen credit cards and counterfeit cards made from stolen numbers at pay-at-the-pump gas stations. They do this initially prior to attempting face-to-face usage to see whether the cards have been cancelled or not. One of my stolen card numbers was used at a Rio de Janiero gas station for two < $3 charges.

I know this is off topic, but I ride a motorcycle. It only holds 4.2 gallons of gas. Back in the spring I made a 1600 mile trip over 4 days. Needless to say, I made a lot of stops for gas, and only charged $6-9 at a time every approx 160-200 miles. Credit card company calls me to notify me my card is being used fraudulently. Took forever to explain to them that it was me making all those charges.

~d

[Wedge Rock]

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