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Old 12-04-2006, 10:46 PM
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AKs against my better judgement. discuss

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Full Tilt Poker Game #1355275743: $10 + $1 Tournament (9227200), Table 56 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:39:42 ET - 2006/12/04
Seat 1: ruabout (3,430)
Seat 2: rhodridgeback (2,590)
Seat 3: kenyaswift (1,275)
Seat 4: WVU_KC (1,037)
Seat 5: coldeeze (2,783)
Seat 6: mwfeldman (3,900)
Seat 7: J Mountclair (2,810)
Seat 8: Hill15 (1,145)
Seat 9: Frogeyes (3,455)
coldeeze posts the small blind of 30
mwfeldman posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mwfeldman [Ks As]
J Mountclair folds
Hill15 raises to 180
Frogeyes folds
ruabout raises to 540
rhodridgeback folds
kenyaswift raises to 1,275, and is all in
WVU_KC folds
coldeeze folds
mwfeldman ???

what i know over 30ish hands:
hill: 25 vpip 10pfr
ruo: 30 vpip 9pfr
kenya: 15vpip 0pfr
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Re: AKs against my better judgement. discuss

I fold, too much action for an unmade hand and I wouldn't be surprised if at least some of your outs are out plus you could easily be up against AA/KK from at least 1 player.
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Re: AKs against my better judgement. discuss

At least you have him covered by three times....so you won't go broke calling. But I might fold myself because I'm way to tight.
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Fold - action behind you that can seriously hurt you.
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Re: AKs against my better judgement. discuss

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At least you have him covered by three times....so you won't go broke calling. But I might fold myself because I'm way to tight.
He has kenya covered by a bunch but he just barely has ruabout covered who made the 2nd raise; there were 3 raises prior to jojo.
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Re: AKs against my better judgement. discuss

I fold because of all the other early action. On the other hand, if you get a little lucky, you would be pretty dominant. Also, if you call, the initial raiser might fold and there might be a slim chance the 2nd raiser gets scared. But, I'm guessing its 3 way if you call.
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Re: AKs against my better judgement. discuss

well in this situation you can't really afford to call and let the other two players come in so it is either all-in or fold. I think that since you are probably no better than a coin flip given the all-in players stats, and the other two players have reasonable enough stats that they may have a hand, AND the pot has already been raised three times, AND the other two players have large enough stacks to put you in bad shape......

I fold.

If you move in and 1) the others fold and 2) he flips up QQ, JJ or less and 3) you win the race, then it you are in great shape. Otherwise you go from chipleader to middle stack which is probably not what you are looking for here. If any of 1,2, or 3 above go wrong you are going to really regret tying yourself to this pot with AKs.

I usually have looser standards than a lot of you for calling all-ins because of my belief in continually accumulating chips, but I can't really find a compelling reason to move-in here.
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I fold, this reeks of one of them having AA or KK
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Re: AKs against my better judgement. discuss

additional information...

this is a multitable, so (as jim mentions) chip accumulation is important.

also, what if i told you (as was the case, although i'm not saying what i did yet) that no one had AA-JJ.

then what?
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