[jmc]

I fold.

Here, I'm fairly certain you'll be staring at AK/KK with AA being VERY likely. From your read, Kenya has a PFR of 0% and only plays 15% of his hands. Now he's moving all in preflop after a raise and a large reraise. To me, this screams AA from some uber tight nit. No need to put 1/3 or more of your of your VERY large stack at risk! FOLD!

Edit:
Ah. Now with the additional info.

Okay, if nobody has AA-JJ, then moving all in isn't a horrible idea (but you have no way of knowing that). If your opponents are smart, they'll be able to lay down AK/AQ/TT or less, since you'll be putting in the 4TH raise, all in as the chip lead. In an ideal world, you'll be getting 1.58:1 on your money against say, 99 and only be a 1.1:1 dog.

But seriously, don't you want to use your skills as a poker player to get your money in as a HUGE favorite as opposed to a marginal one? Blinds are 30/60 right now, and your M is VERY healthy. Pass on this marginal opportunity now and wait for a better one!

[TheMightyJim2k]

if noone has AA-JJ I'm probably going to gamble and move in. Most of the time the other two will lay down their hands, and if not I am getting enough equity in a three way pot to go with AKs. If you win this hand you have the kind of huge stack that can get you into the big money, and if you lose then so be it. In a tournament with an outstanding structure where I know I am going to have tons of play and the blinds are going to be very slow I probably lay this down. But in online tournaments I am constantly trying to accumulate chips so that I can play poker with a big stack late in the tournament and not all-in or fold.

If the others fold you are getting about 1.4-1 on a coinflip, and its worth the gamble IMO.

[w16227]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

FTP 10+1 multi happening now. average stack about 2700.

Full Tilt Poker Game #1355275743: $10 + $1 Tournament (9227200), Table 56 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:39:42 ET - 2006/12/04
Seat 1: ruabout (3,430)
Seat 2: rhodridgeback (2,590)
Seat 3: kenyaswift (1,275)
Seat 4: WVU_KC (1,037)
Seat 5: coldeeze (2,783)
Seat 6: mwfeldman (3,900)
Seat 7: J Mountclair (2,810)
Seat 8: Hill15 (1,145)
Seat 9: Frogeyes (3,455)
coldeeze posts the small blind of 30
mwfeldman posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mwfeldman [Ks As]
J Mountclair folds
Hill15 raises to 180
Frogeyes folds
ruabout raises to 540
rhodridgeback folds
kenyaswift raises to 1,275, and is all in
WVU_KC folds
coldeeze folds
mwfeldman ???

what i know over 30ish hands:
hill: 25 vpip 10pfr
ruo: 30 vpip 9pfr
kenya: 15vpip 0pfr

FOLD

Your best case would appear to be a coinflip if you are somehow not counterfeited (or hosed by KK or AA).

AK is great - if you can lead or isolate, you have THREE raises in front of you. Hill may drop - but I doubt that ruab will.

If these players are bad enough to make these playes with substandard hands, then you are good enough to take their chips when you are in a better position.

[w16227]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

additional information...

this is a multitable, so (as jim mentions) chip accumulation is important.

also, what if i told you (as was the case, although i'm not saying what i did yet) that no one had AA-JJ.

then what?

What - you all had AK?

If you pley this hand, you have to expect that you are putting your tournament life on the line against one palyer, and a good chunk of chips against another.

If these guys are all bad enough to push the big raises with 99 and lower, then you are good enough to take their chips using your postflop play. You do not need to play preflop poker with them- not yet.

You have 3000+ in chips and the levels are 30/60. Still very early. Fulltilt - not pokerstars so I do not know if you started with 155 chips to not, but this still looks like you are doing pretty well.

Bottom line for me - you want to be the person PUSHING with AK in this situation, not calling. Sure, you can push now- but the only way that this would be a good play is if you were SURE that the other big stack will fold. Since he repopped it, this is doubtful.

[hachkc]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

additional information...

this is a multitable, so (as jim mentions) chip accumulation is important.

also, what if i told you (as was the case, although i'm not saying what i did yet) that no one had AA-JJ.

then what?

Assuming you know none of them have AA-JJ, I still like the fold at this point versus the push; I assume calling is not an option. My guess is out of the 3 players left after you push, there is another AK, TT/99 and either a mid pocket pair or a good A. I'm guessing 1 of the raiser's that's not all-in is gonna call but maybe not depending on where they are at. As for kenya, I see a mid pair or AK given that AA-JJ is out. This means you are either behind against a PP or slightly ahead if the other is AKo. If you are behind, I'm guessing at least some of your outs are gone via AQ or AK that were folded by 1 or 2 of the other raisers assuming they don't call.

As W or TMJ2K said, you have a decent stack (3400+) early in the tournament so why risk a big chunk if not all of it here when there are plenty of better opportunities waiting to come along.

[RTBrandy]

Fold...

especially with ruo able to mess with your stack, still......

[TheMightyJim2k]

i think jojo just poses these questions so he can take notes on our responses and use them against us in the tourney on thursday......

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by TheMightyJim2k

i think jojo just poses these questions so he can take notes on our responses and use them against us in the tourney on thursday......

LMAO!!!

[Lucky Louie]

Originally Posted by TheMightyJim2k

i think jojo just poses these questions so he can take notes on our responses and use them against us in the tourney on thursday......

Well, then I definitely push!

[imthatguy]

Wait for a better spot and fold. Chip Accumulation or not, this isn't the best place. I'm going to guess that ruabout has got a medium pair like, nines. And kenya has Ace rag, because this is a 10+1 and he's a desperate donk.