Is FTP giving away free money?

imthatguy · #1 (**permalink**) 12-03-2006, 10:41 PM

Because it sure feels that way!

I just signed up, because I wanted to try a new site, and I'm finding it to be crazy loose. I haven't had a losing session since I started, and I'm wondering if it's because FTP is one of the only sites left that caters to US players. In just over 24 hours I've doubled my money at the .25/.50 NL tables. Tournaments, not so strong yet, lots of pretty loose calls that seem to suck out against me. The bonus is pretty nice to clear as well, I highly recco. getting in on it! Anybody else having a good run there?

hachkc · #2 (**permalink**) 12-03-2006, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by imthatguy

Because it sure feels that way!

I just signed up, because I wanted to try a new site, and I'm finding it to be crazy loose. I haven't had a losing session since I started, and I'm wondering if it's because FTP is one of the only sites left that caters to US players. In just over 24 hours I've doubled my money at the .25/.50 NL tables. Tournaments, not so strong yet, lots of pretty loose calls that seem to suck out against me. The bonus is pretty nice to clear as well, I highly recco. getting in on it! Anybody else having a good run there?

I had a very good run there for about 3 months but I switched back to P* ater I cleared my bonuses.

Savior17 · #3 (**permalink**) 12-04-2006, 11:52 AM

I play the lower limit NLHE a few times per week and pretty much always double my buy in. SNGs haven't been that great for me. You definitely have to watch the suck outs. Betting big to get players to make a mistake doesn't work that much on FT and the miracle card seems to always come for them. Lost 4 in a row to that BS. I adjusted my play and finally took one down. Now I have to get my ROI into the black.

Jiggs77 · #4 (**permalink**) 12-04-2006, 02:00 PM

Savior summed it up pretty well for me. Betting big with the best hand and a
~80-90% favorite has been disasterous for me so far at FTP. It's uncanny how you can sit there and predict the next card and it will be the one that beats me. My winning percentage with pocket Kings is ~32% in about 27 hands and most of those winning hands come from everyone folding after a preflop raise. Someone hits runner-runner or a set on the river with 3rd high pair for a win. It has been frustrating so far, I hope it turns around soon.

Jiggs77

AceOnRiver · #5 (**permalink**) 12-04-2006, 02:40 PM

i have noticed that at every poker site i have played at(P*,FTP,Ultimate bet,Absolute) that when you first start playing at that site you seem to run very well.it almost seems like they give you a good run of cards so you can win and this will keep you at that site.if you start off bad and lose your money you might leave for another site.it is a strategy to suck you into the site.this is just what i have experienced.not saying that internet poker is cheating or anything like that at all.this is just what has happened to me at many different internet poker sites.so look foward to a terrible run if cards in the future.

P.S. same thing happened to me at FTP.i ran good for a month or so.let me give you a run down of the various beats i have taken in the last 3-4 or so hours of playing.
1) KK vs. 1010 flop is 694 we get all in turn 7 river 8 to give him straight
2)KK vs. JJ flop is all under cards we get all in he hits J on turn
3)JJ vs. 77 he hits his 7 on the flop
4) AJs vs. 22 flop A24 not a whole lot you can do but lose your money

sorry to give you bad beat stories but just letting you know what is coming up for you if your running very good now.good luck to you my friend

TheMightyJim2k · #6 (**permalink**) 12-04-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AceOnRiver

i have noticed that at every poker site i have played at(P*,FTP,Ultimate bet,Absolute) that when you first start playing at that site you seem to run very well.it almost seems like they give you a good run of cards so you can win and this will keep you at that site.if you start off bad and lose your money you might leave for another site.it is a strategy to suck you into the site.this is just what i have experienced.not saying that internet poker is cheating or anything like that at all.this is just what has happened to me at many different internet poker sites.so look foward to a terrible run if cards in the future.

P.S. same thing happened to me at FTP.i ran good for a month or so.let me give you a run down of the various beats i have taken in the last 3-4 or so hours of playing.
1) KK vs. 1010 flop is 694 we get all in turn 7 river 8 to give him straight
2)KK vs. JJ flop is all under cards we get all in he hits J on turn
3)JJ vs. 77 he hits his 7 on the flop
4) AJs vs. 22 flop A24 not a whole lot you can do but lose your money

sorry to give you bad beat stories but just letting you know what is coming up for you if your running very good now.good luck to you my friend

not to be mean but this is just silly. It is variance and they aren't giving you cards to help you win. If you had some good cards and played well you won. Inevitably if you play long enough some of your good cards will get beat, and inevitably if you play long enough this will happen frequently for an extended period of time. The sites don't control this, but when you hit the bad side of variance it is up to you as a player to minimize its impact on your roll. I know when I first started playing at FTP I played poorly and ran badly for a pretty long stretch (about 4-5,000 hands) and lost about 1/3rd of my roll. Including that stretch I now have a 2BB/100 win rate over about 15,000 hands.

The sites have too much at stake to risk their integrity with schemes like this. They make enough money without juicing the deal so don't believe the rigged hype.

hachkc · #7 (**permalink**) 12-04-2006, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AceOnRiver

i have noticed that at every poker site i have played at(P*,FTP,Ultimate bet,Absolute) that when you first start playing at that site you seem to run very well. . . . . .

Actually, I was winning at FTP when I left and that was over 3mos. I like P* better but FTP was definitely profitable for me. I used all my winnings from there to buy a new laptop.

As TMJ2K points out, its all variance. I'm sure you've sucked out a few hands on someone here or there also.

Hell the other night, I get dealt QQ in MP. EP raises it up 4BB and I just call. We go to the flop heads up and it comes AJx. He bets, I reraise to see if he has an A, he calls so I figure he has an A so I decide to shutdown at this point. Turn comes QQ (yippee), he bets, I raise, he pushes, I call and he turns over AQ. I guess he must have been starting on his 2nd month of profitable play.

PS: QQ does win and can even suckout too.

jojobinks · #8 (**permalink**) 12-04-2006, 04:07 PM

don't get too excited, matty. volitility is a b!tch.

AceOnRiver · #9 (**permalink**) 12-04-2006, 05:34 PM

i just got done playing on pokerstars for the first time.the exact same thing happened on this site as all the others.i played for 2 hours or so and made 4.5x my initial buy in.i had the best run if cards i have ever had.KK about 4 or 5 times AA twice AK 4 or 5 times.this is what happens to me at every single site i have ever played at.i have never started at 1 site and started losing.i always win when i first play at a site.not only do i win i hit the biggest run of cards.im not saying they are cheating or anything because i agree they make plenty of money without cheating.dont get me wrong.but this just seems wierd when it happens at 8-10 different sites.again this is just my opinion.please dont get mad and try to make me look like a bad guy and that im stupid or anything like that.not talking to anyone in particular.just for future posters.good luck to you guys in the future.

jojobinks · #10 (**permalink**) 12-04-2006, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AceOnRiver

i just got done playing on pokerstars for the first time.the exact same thing happened on this site as all the others.i played for 2 hours or so and made 4.5x my initial buy in.i had the best run if cards i have ever had.KK about 4 or 5 times AA twice AK 4 or 5 times.this is what happens to me at every single site i have ever played at.i have never started at 1 site and started losing.i always win when i first play at a site.not only do i win i hit the biggest run of cards.im not saying they are cheating or anything because i agree they make plenty of money without cheating.dont get me wrong.but this just seems wierd when it happens at 8-10 different sites.again this is just my opinion.please dont get mad and try to make me look like a bad guy and that im stupid or anything like that.not talking to anyone in particular.just for future posters.good luck to you guys in the future.

you're not stupid or a bad guy.

but this isn't true, generally. gratz on your rush(es), though.