[hachkc]

Anyone ever fold a set because they believe their opponent had an over set? I was a situation earlier where I put my opponent on middle set to my bottom set after he C/R me all in on the turn but I couldn't fold it.

Basic hand at .25/.50 NL

3 limpers to the flop, sb, bb and myself in MP/LP with 44.

Flop comes Q45r

SB checks, BB bets 1, I reraise to 2.50, sb calls (scary) and bb folds

Turn comes 9 for a 4 suited flop and sb checks, I make a pot sized bet and he raises me all in as he had me covered. I go in the tank putting him on 55 where I thought earlier he may have had an OESD. I just couldn't convince myself to fold it though.

[dad604]

I play mostly limit so I would never fold a set. The few times I play NL, I would be stacked vs over set.

[smoore]

Just stack off to him, especially ring. That's a hand you're supposed to lose.

What really sucks is when you do fold bottom set because you're at the chip-gathering stage of a tournament and you're CONVINCED the friggin' rock on your right wouldn't check-raise you in a three way pot without at least a set... then he shows two pair to beat the donkey's TPTK.

Either I got very outplayed in a squeeze or he was overvaluing his hand. Haven't seen him since so I dunno.

[hachkc]

Normally I don't have an issue with it but the C/R all in on the turn just screamed set and if he had QQ he would raised PF from the sb.

I only kick myself because my read was right but I couldn't listen to it.

[Quads]

Set over set, at showdown is rather rare.
Bottom set, perhaps. Would have to be very very clear that I was beat, based on the action and the fabric of the board, hand and players. Middle set, not likely.
Top set, never.

If I get raised or RR on a RB flop with any set, I'm bound to get all my checks in.

Statistically, I'll need to lose a few of them over the years. I think I've folded a set in Hold'em a time or two.... at best.

Omaha, much different story.

[hachkc]

Originally Posted by Quads

Statistically, I'll need to lose a few of them over the years. I think I've folded a set in Hold'em a time or two.... at best.

When you say you've folded a set was it because you figured you were beat by a bigger set or just beat. I've folded sets before on 3 or 4 to a flush depending on the action or 4 running str8 cards but never because I figured I held the underset. Till now, I don't know that I ever put my opponent on a set like this.

[ToddWDraper]

I once folded bottom set three handed in a tourney. I was facing a raise and a re-raise against two players I know very well, and I was 99% conviced I was beat. Still not an easy fold.

Turns out they both had me. How many times have you seen set over set over set?

One of the craziest hands I've ever seen.

[smoore]

Originally Posted by hachkc

When you say you've folded a set was it because you figured you were beat by a bigger set or just beat. I've folded sets before on 3 or 4 to a flush depending on the action or 4 running str8 cards but never because I figured I held the underset. Till now, I don't know that I ever put my opponent on a set like this.

Folding a set to an obvious flush is MUCH different than folding a set in a possible set vs. set situation. The obv. flush is just standard.

"Is he bluffing?" That's all you need to consider in most cases.

Set over set is very rare, and I say this by being knocked out of my nightly last night like that. I held 22, flop Qx2. We get it in. I lose.

[SingleMaltFan]

i lost yesterday out of a torney to just that..55 flop X-10-5 he bet i raised all in (i was shortish, late in the game) he called and flipped 10-10..dead to a five..and home of course...

no way i was folding..he was a rather loose player, bluffed at many pots..

1malt

[bigjohn]

I usually only fold to a flush when I have a set.... I usually play it until the river