[gagners]

Originally Posted by Strange

'English only at the table'

I've said exactly that in the chat box when I've had a bunch of swedes or germans chatting. Its happened several times, and I've always received agreement and something approaching an apology.

I did not get that reception. I asked the question: "doesn't P* have an English only rule?" The response: "Go find an English table." Then, the WHOLE table (excpet for three of us) started talking german, even the ones that were speaking english before. It just kinda pissed me off.

[dad604]

Originally Posted by gagners

I did not get that reception. I asked the question: "doesn't P* have an English only rule?" The response: "Go find an English table." Then, the WHOLE table (excpet for three of us) started talking german, even the ones that were speaking english before. It just kinda pissed me off.

Actually if the site do not have a policy regarding English only, I would agree with the table that have a majority of German speakers for players that prefer English to find an English table. Take the other side of the coin, how would you feel if you do not speak English and every one is speaking in English.

Altho, I do agree that English only is the logical choice for poker sites same as in Air Traffic control.

[pokerace22]

Most sites I've been at have it in there terms of service that you have to speak english only at the table. I normally request players to speak english only, and if they don't, shoot an email to support with the table name and time. They usually send warnings out or suspend chat for a short period of time. Hollywood has a live support option in the lobby which is really nice.

[smoore]

OK, give me one GOOD reason why English should be the only language at the online tables.

Collusion doesn't count because we've already determined that collusion would be much easier via AIM or Skype. Saying that "BUT IT IS POSSIBLE!" is a straw man argument at best. WHY would a collusion team use the chatbox? There is zero reason to collude in the chatbox. They have easier, more secure methods. If they are making fun of us, oh well... you're allowed to make fun of players in engrish.

So... without collusion, is there a single reason to ban any language chat?

[pokerace22]

Originally Posted by smoore

OK, give me one GOOD reason why English should be the only language at the online tables.

Collusion doesn't count because we've already determined that collusion would be much easier via AIM or Skype. Saying that "BUT IT IS POSSIBLE!" is a straw man argument at best. WHY would a collusion team use the chatbox? There is zero reason to collude in the chatbox. They have easier, more secure methods. If they are making fun of us, oh well... you're allowed to make fun of players in engrish.

So... without collusion, is there a single reason to ban any language chat?

Collusion.

Circumventing the language filter.

Discussing your cards while a hand is in progress without others knowing.

Casinos don't allow players to sit down and speak foreign languages or use cell phones during games.

IMO, rules are rules, and you as a player need to know them when you sit down 2 play.

[kmalsom]

Nur Englisch solte am Tisch gesprochen verden, da er unhoflich ist, eine andera Sprache zu sprechen, wenn Leute um Sie nicht verstehen konnen. Sie bildet Leute unbequem.

(should be some umlauts in there, but no german keyboard...)

Translation: Only english should be spoken at the table as it is rude to speak another language when people around you can't understand. It makes people uncomfortable.

[smoore]

hm, ok. It's impolite.

I'm pretty impolite.

[gagners]

Like I said before, there was no reason to call in the language police on this one as it was a play money tourney (and 6 or 7 out of 9 of us were from Germany). I'm a pretty tolerant fellow so, considering it was a German dominated table, I decided not to fuss about it.

I didn't like the reception I got from them, especially after I raised the issue in a very polite way. If we'd been at a live table, some people would be bleeding.

I do see what you are saying smoore. at a table with 7 Germans, I don't have much problem with them speaking German. I just kinda wished I knew what they were saying. I speak the better part of 5 languages (unfortunately, German isn't one of them), but I only speak english at the felt, b/c "thems are the rules."

I just posed the question because I thught it would spark some good discussion here at CT. PRESTO! I was right.

[Strange]

Originally Posted by smoore

OK, give me one GOOD reason why English should be the only language at the online tables.

Collusion doesn't count because we've already determined that collusion would be much easier via AIM or Skype. Saying that "BUT IT IS POSSIBLE!" is a straw man argument at best. WHY would a collusion team use the chatbox? There is zero reason to collude in the chatbox. They have easier, more secure methods. If they are making fun of us, oh well... you're allowed to make fun of players in engrish.

So... without collusion, is there a single reason to ban any language chat?

Not a great argument. The english only rule at B&M tables doesn't make sense either because colluders would use signs instead of just colluding in speech. And yet casinos have that rule.

I believe that the rule is in place at most casinos and inline sites so that everyone at the table knows what is going on whether it be comments from other players, from the dealer, from the floor or whatever.

If a particular site does not have the rule in place, then there is no reason to stick to it. If it does, then you should stick to the rules or find somewhere that has rules that you will stick to.

[PhilTheThrill14]

How exactly does one know what langauge people speak when they enter a tournament? Do I leave the tournament I paid to enter when I realize that there are a bunch of players speaking german? That's just silly.

Smoore - have you ever seen people collude using the chat box. Be honest. I think all of us have. Your argument is weak sauce pal.