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10-02-2006, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SingleMaltFan | Thanks.
I find it a bit odd as they do have players from around the world and force everyone to chat in our language. To be honest if you are going to cheat, you won't be doing via the poker sites chat facility for a number of reasons. |
10-02-2006, 12:02 PM
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Well I think they could be using yahoo IM or be on the telephone just as easy.. If people are going to collude I dont think they would be doing it right in the poker room  |
10-02-2006, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjohn Well I think they could be using yahoo IM or be on the telephone just as easy.. If people are going to collude I dont think they would be doing it right in the poker room | The biggest reason is the chat facilities are recorded, pretty easy to determine they are colluding at that point. |
10-02-2006, 12:45 PM
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Just because it doesn't seem likely that people will collude right there in the chat box, doesn't mean they (poker sites) shouldn't take steps to keep it from happening. |
10-02-2006, 02:09 PM
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"English Only!" makes perfect sense in aviation or even a live poker table. It's pretty silly in an online poker chat box. Who cares what the're saying?
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10-02-2006, 02:26 PM
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If it makes sense at a live table then it makes sense at an internet table as well. I'm not sure I understand the logic being used here....
There are many ways to "cheat" or "collude" at a table - whether it be live or internet. Casinos (B&M and Online) should do everything to ensure that it doesn't take place. Just because there are easier methods or ones wich aren't as easy to detect is kind of a silly argument for allowing it. Allowing something to happen because it would be foolish for someone to try cheating with it is not logical. Should we allow people drive around with an open bottle of booze in their car - afterall, nobody would be foolish enough to drink and drive...(okay - an extreme example). |
10-02-2006, 02:39 PM
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just fed it through babel fish...looks like meaningless chat...something about German mourning day, a lesbian and a spa...strange... |
10-02-2006, 02:39 PM
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I always politely mention the rules, and have never had a problem with anyone getting upset. Some users may simply not be aware of the rule, or are willing to stop if someone complains. It's not as much collusion, as they may be talking about the last hand. The odds are still slightly stacked in their favor if they're discussing the last hand and you can't understand, even if it's with innocent intentions. It's like the show one, show them all rule.
Maybe I'm being annoying by being a stickler, but the rules there for a reason. I doubt we're the only ones that find it frustrating. |
10-02-2006, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilTheThrill14 If it makes sense at a live table then it makes sense at an internet table as well. I'm not sure I understand the logic being used here.... | In a B&M, you are phyiscally in a specific nation with its own language, laws, etc. Online, you could be playing with players that are physically located in France, Germany, Japan and Argentina all at the same time; the 2 are not comparable. Do you expect everyone in France to speak English when you go there and play cards at the Aviation Club?
That being said, it would be nice for the Poker sites to make some allowances regarding multilanguage support. Maybe all english tables (aka where the fish are) and any language tables though that might be hard to enforce. |
10-02-2006, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilTheThrill14 If it makes sense at a live table then it makes sense at an internet table as well. I'm not sure I understand the logic being used here....
There are many ways to "cheat" or "collude" at a table - whether it be live or internet. Casinos (B&M and Online) should do everything to ensure that it doesn't take place. Just because there are easier methods or ones wich aren't as easy to detect is kind of a silly argument for allowing it. Allowing something to happen because it would be foolish for someone to try cheating with it is not logical. Should we allow people drive around with an open bottle of booze in their car - afterall, nobody would be foolish enough to drink and drive...(okay - an extreme example). | At an internet table, everything is recorded. Yes, it's possible for collusion but highly unlikely and easy to prove.
At a live table, single words in the middle of a hand can carry a lot of weight. Even if the dealer knows what "raise!" means in Vietnamese (or Portugese, Italian, etc), what about "you now!"? It's just far too easy to use innuendo to get a partner to act a certain way and then explain it off as an expressive reaction to a card or some action.
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