[ACE'S FULL]

Ok, now I thought that I was a decent Hold'em player. I have played online for about 2yrs. I started with instant bankroll on Party. My bankroll high was about $400.
Now I have completed 2 PSO promos for Skulls only to lose my roll right after completion of the promo. I am not much on the side games, I prefer MTT and SNG's. Now I need to find out what tools (software etc..) that I need to try to fix my major leaks... Is there anyone that can help me here. I am a very small stakes player. My typical buy-in online is $50. I have read SS1 and a Ken Meyers (I think thats the guy) book on hold'em. I want to be a successful player just unsure the right path. I have taken a break from it. In hopes to learn somethings before going back to battle. Thanks in advance for all your help and suggestions...

[smoore]

I use pokertracker. It's great for breaking down where you win/lose and with what hands. There is a hand-replayer so you can go back through street by street, leading to, "OH! I should have folded THERE!" and such statements. It's basically a front-end for a database that allows you to pick your and your oppoent's play apart. I would suggest learning what the different numbers mean before relying on a HUD at the table.

There is another program called poker office. I have never used it.

I believe you can get both through affiliate deals.

edit: oh yeah... pokerstars will send you ALL of your hand histories in a .zip file if you ask support. Since you are taking a break you can buy PT, import all the hands and check out your play.

[ACE'S FULL]

Smoore... Thank you!! I have looked at both the PokerTracker & PokerOffice. Now can someone tell me what the pro's and con's of each are? Also what is the better investment? Or is both the way to go? Another question will these programs work with play money (sorry I am gun shy right now)

[cpiaaq]

Poker tracker is what I bought.

I still lose, but now I know why

[smoore]

You only need one of them. PT is the industry standard. From what I understand, PO looks at tracking a little differently... like they automatically show you "saw flop" instead of VP$IP (voluntarily put $ in pot) which IMO (and most people's) is the more useful statistic. You can change PO around to be more "standard".

PT has a big community in it's own forum, I don't know about PO.

I'll go sit play money right now and see if PT shows the hands.

[smoore]

No, my PT is NOT importing play money hands. You could search the forums at pokertracker.com and see if there's some setting to make it so.

[hachkc]

Originally Posted by smoore

You only need one of them. PT is the industry standard. From what I understand, PO looks at tracking a little differently... like they automatically show you "saw flop" instead of VP$IP (voluntarily put $ in pot) which IMO (and most people's) is the more useful statistic. You can change PO around to be more "standard".

PT has a big community in it's own forum, I don't know about PO.

I'll go sit play money right now and see if PT shows the hands.

PT is supposed to be a bit more advanced while PO is supposed to be easier to use (IMHO PT is plenty easy).

For detailed analysis of the 2, check the Software forum on 2+2. There are plenty of discussions about the 2 there.

[ACE'S FULL]

Darnt it! Well I will check into that... Thanks Smoore!!!

[ACE'S FULL]

Well.... Went to the pokertracker forum and you can only load or see real money games... It will "ingnore" anything else... YUCK!!!

[ACE'S FULL]

Originally Posted by hachkc

PT is supposed to be a bit more advanced while PO is supposed to be easier to use (IMHO PT is plenty easy).

For detailed analysis of the 2, check the Software forum on 2+2. There are plenty of discussions about the 2 there.

Thank you! So you prefer PT to PO?? Is there anything that one offers that the other doesnt?? Better or Worse??