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Old 09-14-2006, 02:11 PM
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A $4.40/180 observation

I'm back at the microstakes with my case bankroll and adjusting from the $22's has been... interesting.

Two times in the past two days people have rivered baby straights on me HOLDING THREE TO THE STRAIGHT ON THE FLOP. Don't think that I'm whining, in each hand I bet the flop and slowplayed the turn purposely in order to try to win a big pot. Ya pays yer money, ya takes yer chances, ya know? I got a lotta gamble in me in +EV situations. Both of these weird baby straights kinda blindsided me, the first one busted me but I just called his bet in the second. Funny note, the second guy's name is SOUHATEME and he said, "badcall" when I called his weird little 3bet. He busted out two hands later getting AI PF w/KQs badcall indeed, I just didn't realize he was prophetic.

This set me to thinking.... these guys are floating the flop with COMPLETE air. The continuation bet is getting NO respect from these particular players. I didn't really have enough hands on either of them to try to profile either of them but WHO ARE THESE GUYS? I need to learn to identify them quickly because they can pay me well before the other good players get all of their chips.

Thoughts on profiling guys that will behave like this?
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Old 09-14-2006, 03:12 PM
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Re: A $4.40/180 observation

These guys are banking on what some people are callin the "PokerStars River Expectation". This is where the worst starting hand is guaranteed to get a runner runner for the win to take down money from better players. This way, it keeps everyone playing, and PStars can take more rake later on.

Bottom line, unless you can get folks to fold before the river, you're toast.
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Old 09-14-2006, 03:17 PM
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Re: A $4.40/180 observation

Ahhh Yes, the "PokerStars River Expectation". I have studied that theory quite extensively...and still can't figure it out.

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These guys are banking on what some people are callin the "PokerStars River Expectation". This is where the worst starting hand is guaranteed to get a runner runner for the win to take down money from better players. This way, it keeps everyone playing, and PStars can take more rake later on.

Bottom line, unless you can get folks to fold before the river, you're toast.
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Re: A $4.40/180 observation

Look up your opponents on Sharkscope.com. The players you mention wil exibit a characteristic sub-optimal bankroll change vector. Against such opponents I keep the pot small until the river and then make sure that I show down the best hand.
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Re: A $4.40/180 observation

Not to threadjack, but this Sharkscope thing is EVIL! How dare they keep track of how much money I've made!
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Yeah! This is unprecedented!
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Good thing Sharkscope thinks I'm a shark, or I'd be pretty upset... That Hendonmob DB is pretty slick. They must have a giant team of monkeys working overtime to gather all that info.
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Re: A $4.40/180 observation

Heh, if it wasn't federal PMITA prison to compromize a computer's security these days I'd probably run a "change your grade" service against them, "Psst, buddy... wanna look like a fish? $25 and I make it happen."
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Re: A $4.40/180 observation

You can email Sharkscope and they will remove your stats from the database. However if I'm looking up someone on Sharkscope and nothing comes up, I can fairly safely assume that that person is NOT a fish...
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