[smoore]

The cobbled together one, the per blind-level chart (I didn't see this before, you DEFINITELY need to steal more in the late stages) and a shot of VP$IP, PFR, etc according to position.

[Nanook]

Originally Posted by smoore

The cobbled together one, the per blind-level chart (I didn't see this before, you DEFINITELY need to steal more in the late stages) and a shot of VP$IP, PFR, etc according to position.

Thanks for the help smoore! and others

I am going out of town for the weekend and still have more tourney summaries to get in there. As soon as all that is done I will refresh with the above requested screenshots. If you wouldn't mind picking this back up next week that would be fantastic.

AB

[smoore]

It'll stay in my subscribed threads

have a good trip.

[Wooderson]

A few things:

I've heard the pokertrackeguide.com is great; i've heard it sucks. I am interested. Group buy???

As to how to use the data in your report... well, wether or not the sample size is too small or big, based on what you have so far it looks like you're semi-loose (putting money in 25% of the time) and apparently pretty good post-flop (W$WSF @ 43% and W$@SD of 49%). I'd say you could still stand to tighten up an bit post flop.

Your BB/100 hands is at what.. 14? Hella good. Based on your aggression I bet there are a good number of hands you just push people out of.

Now, the next step. How do you use and of this to really improve?

Go to the General tab and click Filters. Click the box under VP$IP for Put Money In and click OK. This will show all hands you participated in. Under that in the grid are click Net to order everything in an Ascending manner (losings first). Go through all the hands you are a net loss on and see why you lost. Are there hands you tend to over play? KQs and QQ were that for me big-time.

Continue to look at things with the filters. How do you do on pairs? How do you play draws if you start with connectors, suited or suited connectors? Etc etc etc...

[Nanook]

Thanks everyone for the help so far. I have added more hands. Now I have in there about 8000 tournament hands. I know some of you will still say that this is not enough, however I am not trying to prove that I am good enough to go pro or anything, all I am trying to do is get better. It seems to me that if this program is worth anything at all, I should be able to at least start to look at my own play and how I might improve after 8000 hands.

Here are the reports with the additional hands in there:







All comments are appreciated and welcome.

AB

[smoore]

Same comments as before plus:

You definitely need to defend your blind more later in the tournament. Sometimes you'll have to play trash against aggro stealers (you're folding 80% to a steal). Try to find situations to resteal. Call a few more "trouble" hands like QJ and KJ, reraise with some truly awful stuff. You can do this BECAUSE you're folding the BB so much. Try not to go broke if they do play back as you'll be out of position.

23% steal isn't too bad... I'm more aggro than that but only by 5% or so. Again, this could just be a function of the small sample (might not have enough image to steal more in these particular situations) plus I'm comfortable playing junk in position. Look back through PT and see if there are any Ax or two broadway situations where you could have stolen instead of folding.

You aren't playing position much. Be much more willing to VP$IP in later positions, much less willing in early. Position is HUGE in NLHE tournaments.


I'd like to see a little more PFR and a few more cont. bets.

All in all, your stats look like a "normal" player, i.e. you aren't a fish A little more aggression and a little more position play could really bring you to the next level. From these stats I would assume you have won money in these tournaments. If not, keep plugging away; a player that plays like these stats should be able to come out on the positive side of at least $11 MTT's and probably the $22*180's. Can't help you with anything higher

Go through PT and see if you can find places to apply these suggestions and you'll be more apt to see them when they happen in front of you.

[Nanook]

Ok, I will try and do a little stydying of my own play. As I mentioned, I am about a break even player at this point. I have already put in a lot of time to just become break even. Its kind of like kissing your sister.......

As far as analyzing others play. I know that you don't see the same people over and over in tournament play like you do in ring games but can you set up ratings for players in tournament play that might be useful for that tourney? I would think that in MTT this would be especially useful. I assume yes, if so would you start by using the ratings that the guy in bet-the-pot has in his tutorial or would you suggest using something different? Any suggestions on how one would tweak these ratings for different games/limits etc.....

AB

[Poboy]

Originally Posted by Nanook

Thanks everyone for the help so far. I have added more hands. Now I have in there about 8000 tournament hands. I know some of you will still say that this is not enough, however I am not trying to prove that I am good enough to go pro or anything, all I am trying to do is get better. It seems to me that if this program is worth anything at all, I should be able to at least start to look at my own play and how I might improve after 8000 hands.

it isn't a matter of whether you are going pro, it's a matter of having a large enough sample size to account for variations in cards. Look at your VPIP-SB. It went down 4%. You probably didn't change your hand requirements, so it most likely represents worse cards in the SB. That said, you can start to spot trends in your play.
Like smoore said, you are folding your BB too often to steals.
Looking at the blind level chart, it looks like you are in too many pots preflop, and going to showdown too often at 100/200.

[yeltzen]

Originally Posted by Nanook

Hi Guys,

I have been meaning to really get serious about getting better at HE. One of the ways I thought that I could improve my game was by getting PokerTracker. I did that and I got PokerAce Hud too.

Sadly I must admit that I have not used either much. Not because I don't think they are good or anything like that, but because I really don't know how to use them to improve my game.

Here is my situation: I have been playing Poker for probably 25yrs, but HE only for the past yr or so. I play occasionally live both in B&M and in home tourneys, both cash and tourneys. Mostly, I play online. In the past 8 months I have played approximately 40,000 hands. About 1/2 have been lowish buy in SNG's and about 1/2 have been low NLHE cash (.1/.25, and .25/.5) I am about a break even player and want to learn how to get better. I have read the articles from bet-the-pot about how to set up different categories of players and such but it still sort of escapes me as to how one really goes about getting started with PokerTracker and how to effectively use it to actually make more money.

Any info or insight that anyone has would be much appreciated.

AB

I would just keep in mind that PT will not make you money on it's own... it will just make it a lot easier to keep tabs on the hands players play from various positions, how aggressive they are with certain hands, etc. It's not like you just dump 40,000 hands into PT and it starts making you money. I would say that, on average, PT saves or makes me 2 or 3 bets a session just from being able to see who overvalues crappy hands (AXo) and who only bets when they have something. I mostly use it to a) keep track of my money, b) keep track of my personal stats so I realize when I'm getting out of line and correct it, and c) review my tournament hands so I can see if I'm adjusting to the way the table is playing or the way I'm playing over the course of a tournament.

[smoore]

Originally Posted by Nanook

As far as analyzing others play. I know that you don't see the same people over and over in tournament play like you do in ring games but can you set up ratings for players in tournament play that might be useful for that tourney? I would think that in MTT this would be especially useful. I assume yes, if so would you start by using the ratings that the guy in bet-the-pot has in his tutorial or would you suggest using something different? Any suggestions on how one would tweak these ratings for different games/limits etc.....

PT won't auto-rate tournament players. If you wanted to you could go through and define your own ratings for each player in PT. Better to just learn how the numbers correlate, IMO.