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08-10-2006, 04:50 PM
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When I do as you have said I get another window that comes up that has a whole bunch of info in there that again does not all fit inside of 1 window without a scrollbar on the right. If I take a screenshot of this, again some of the info will not be seen. This is true of both tourney and ring game info
Sorry to be such a ignoramous!
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08-11-2006, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dad604 | Is that worth $20? Would you recommend it for a fairly PT savvy tournament player?
I specify tournament player because PT doesn't really service our needs 100%. There are some changes that could be made.
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08-11-2006, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by smoore Is that worth $20? Would you recommend it for a fairly PT savvy tournament player?
I specify tournament player because PT doesn't really service our needs 100%. There are some changes that could be made. | Can't give much advice on tourn. as I don't play much tourn. I am mainly a cash game player and I don't have the guide that costs $20, I did read the free one tho. | 
08-11-2006, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Nanook I am fine to start with tourneys so I am happy to take advice from you guys!
When I do as you have said I get another window that comes up that has a whole bunch of info in there that again does not all fit inside of 1 window without a scrollbar on the right. If I take a screenshot of this, again some of the info will not be seen. This is true of both tourney and ring game info
Sorry to be such a ignoramous!
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08-11-2006, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dad604 | Thanks for the links. I had seen this before and have read thru almost all of the free bet-the-pot stuff, but have not really studied it.
If I hit the "P" print button and view it at 100% I get something that is readable like this:
If in the tourny area I hit the more detail button as has been suggested I get this:
Do you see how it comes up with a scroll bar at the right? If this is what you want to look at this window is not resizable so do I need to do 2 or 3 different screenshots and cut and paste them together? I can certainly do this unless there is an easier way.
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08-11-2006, 10:47 AM
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Chips: 1,589 | | | Re: How to get started with PokerTracker The cobbled together version that I made by cutting and pasting would look something like this.
This is somewhat of a pain, but I guess it works.
Alright, so now how do we start to use this info?
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08-11-2006, 02:29 PM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbus, OH
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I'm sure there are tournament numbers out there to compare where you stand, and hopefully someone else can comment since I'm a limit player mostly. Most of your numbers look good IMHO, but again, sample size is small.
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08-11-2006, 02:43 PM
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Tournament numbers look pretty good. I'm looking at "where you fold" mainly (you fold the flop FAR more often than you fold the river, that's good). You may be peeling the river a little too often, you're not folding very much on the turn.
You are nice and aggressive, possibly a little too aggressive on the flop but that could be a function of the small sample size.
You are purty darn tight but aren't raising enough PF from what I see... go ahead and open raise a little more. Out of curiosity, how often are you calling PF raises and COLD calling PF raises?
You are folding your BB a LOT to steal raises. PT defines a steal as someone in the hijack (button -2) or later opening for a raise. I'd like to see a little more blind defense as you seem to be a strong blinds player (the blind defense section looks pretty good).
Steal more. Of course, if you're not making it very deep (to the large blinds and antes) with these 2500 hands then your steal % is probably about right.
You are so tight and raise PF so infrequently that your opponents seem to really fear your PFR. You don't get people to the flop very often and they fold when you cont bet (no flop/no action of almost 70%). You can use this. Once people notice you, go ahead and steal from MP with trash, about once every four orbits or so. You'll be amazed at how your tight play gets respect. Keep cont betting whiffed AKs on garbage flops.
That should get you started. I'd like to see a screenshot of VP$IP in relation to position.
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08-11-2006, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by smoore Sample too small for any real analysis but we can see a few trends.
Tournament numbers look pretty good. I'm looking at "where you fold" mainly (you fold the flop FAR more often than you fold the river, that's good). You may be peeling the river a little too often, you're not folding very much on the turn.
You are nice and aggressive, possibly a little too aggressive on the flop but that could be a function of the small sample size.
You are purty darn tight but aren't raising enough PF from what I see... go ahead and open raise a little more. Out of curiosity, how often are you calling PF raises and COLD calling PF raises?
You are folding your BB a LOT to steal raises. PT defines a steal as someone in the hijack (button -2) or later opening for a raise. I'd like to see a little more blind defense as you seem to be a strong blinds player (the blind defense section looks pretty good).
Steal more. Of course, if you're not making it very deep (to the large blinds and antes) with these 2500 hands then your steal % is probably about right.
You are so tight and raise PF so infrequently that your opponents seem to really fear your PFR. You don't get people to the flop very often and they fold when you cont bet (no flop/no action of almost 70%). You can use this. Once people notice you, go ahead and steal from MP with trash, about once every four orbits or so. You'll be amazed at how your tight play gets respect. Keep cont betting whiffed AKs on garbage flops.
That should get you started. I'd like to see a screenshot of VP$IP in relation to position. |
ok, I get the message about too few hands. I have another 8000+ tourney hands that I just put in there and onother 6000+ ring game hands also. I have more too, but they are not so easily accessable as they are right now on a computer that has died and info has to be retrieved off the hard drive.
It is going to take me a few hrs at 20 tournies/ hr to retrieve all the tourney summary info. I will put up new screenshots when I get all that done. Before I do that though, which of these screenshots do you want me to refresh with more data?
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