[hachkc]

My suckout of the week.

Preflop the betting get's capped and I'm sitting with AA. After the flop betting, I'm about 80% sure 1 of them has a set and very likely top set. Montecarlo is a pretty tight player from what I've seen while eatbush has only been around for few minutes. At best we've got AA, KK and QQ between the 3 of us. Wish I knew what Monte had.

Anyone fold this on the turn? I'm just crossing my fingers that eatbush doesn't really have a set but an overpair.

POKERSTARS GAME #5389934181: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($2/$4) -
Table 'Asterope' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: MonteCarlo12 ($110 in chips)
Seat 2: ubigchicken ($30.50 in chips)
Seat 5: ru4real22 ($97 in chips)
Seat 6: eatbush ($60 in chips)
Seat 7: Meesy ($66.50 in chips)
Seat 8: alips ($137 in chips)
Seat 9: Turing80 ($98 in chips)
Seat 10: hachkc ($164.50 in chips)
alips: posts small blind $1
Turing80: posts big blind $2
Firestorm616: sits out
eatbush: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hachkc [Ah As]
hachkc: raises $2 to $4
MonteCarlo12: raises $2 to $6
ubigchicken: folds
ru4real22: folds
eatbush: raises $2 to $8
Betting is capped
Meesy: folds
alips: folds
Turing80: folds
hachkc: calls $4
MonteCarlo12: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [2h Js 8h]
hachkc: bets $2
MonteCarlo12: raises $2 to $4
eatbush: raises $2 to $6
hachkc: calls $4
MonteCarlo12: calls $2
*** TURN *** [2h Js 8h] [9d]
hachkc: checks
MonteCarlo12: checks
eatbush: bets $4
hachkc: calls $4
MonteCarlo12: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [2h Js 8h 9d] [Ac]
hachkc: checks
MonteCarlo12: checks
eatbush: bets $4
hachkc: raises $4 to $8
MonteCarlo12: folds
eatbush: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hachkc: shows [Ah As] (three of a kind, Aces)
eatbush: shows [Jh Jd] (three of a kind, Jacks)
hachkc collected $70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $73 | Rake $3
Board [2h Js 8h 9d Ac]
Seat 1: MonteCarlo12 folded on the River
Seat 2: ubigchicken folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ru4real22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: eatbush showed [Jh Jd] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 7: Meesy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: alips (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Turing80 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 10: hachkc showed [Ah As] and won ($70) with three of a kind, Aces

[punk1o1]

I have no problem with how you played it... He must not have been to happy about that one...

[hachkc]

Originally Posted by punk1o1

He must not have been to happy about that one...

Not really.

After the hand, I chatted "bad suckout, sorry" and he replied "sh!t happens, no biggee". I'm sure he wasn't happy but definitely not too PO.

[Dissolved]

kinda a weak pot for those limits eh?

[hachkc]

Originally Posted by Dissolved

kinda a weak pot for those limits eh?

Not really for 2/4 Limit, final pot was about 17.5 Big Bets.

[w16227]

Originally Posted by hachkc

Not really for 2/4 Limit, final pot was about 17.5 Big Bets.

For 2/4 that is a pretty nice sized pot. It is almost the size of the standard buyin for 2/4 ($80-$100).


Limt (especially 2/4), I still hang on to the aces on the turn. I also would have slowed down as you did (depending upon the players).

[w16227]

Originally Posted by hachkc

Not really.

After the hand, I chatted "bad suckout, sorry" and he replied "sh!t happens, no biggee". I'm sure he wasn't happy but definitely not too PO.

Putting myself in place of the JJ - this kind of beat is actually a lot easier to take (not as much as a tilter) than having the calling station flip up 7Tos after the preflop cap.

[noelsarchs]

I'd really like to know what MonteCarlo was raising with other than a flat out bluff.

[hachkc]

Originally Posted by noelsarchs

I'd really like to know what MonteCarlo was raising with other than a flat out bluff.

I'd have to guess KK or at worst QQ.

Personally, I'm kind of surprised eatbush capped preflop with just JJ in position with 2 other raisers. Personally, I would have just called and evaluated my options on the flop. He was new to the table so he probably didn't know much about Monte and myself as we are both relatively tight players.

[bolgenmod]

Very nice -- I would have played it almost the same. In fact, I had a similar hand w KK versus QQ: Q-high flop, but river was a K. And I did the exact same thing: slowed down on the turn when the flop action was heavy, assuming that my fellow pre-flop-raising opponent might have flopped a set or had AA (there were no good draws on the board). My opponent was not happy when I sucked-out, but it happens. And I was pleased that I read him correctly and didn't donk off a few extra bets when I was behind.

As to your question: no way am I laying down AA to one turn bet in a pot this big. And I probably call one bet on the river even without the set depending on the action: 80% sure is not enough in pot with more than 10 big bets unless I have a really solid read on the player(s). Having a extra player in there changes things of course, but he too only check-calls the turn, so I am less worried about having him check-raise the river.