[hachkc]

Hand #11534165-13359 at Idaho Falls (No Limit Hold'em)
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Started at 12/Feb/06 16:37:19

top_kyle is at seat 0 with $36.25.
CRatrun is at seat 1 with $13.75.
grund is at seat 2 with $99.40.
push bad hand is at seat 3 with $142.60.
TimThompson is at seat 4 with $50.35.
Vegas_M is at seat 5 with $28.25.
suwes is at seat 6 with $26.
tonya is at seat 7 with $8.55.
evil knight is at seat 8 with $18.60.
maxrebo19 is at seat 9 with $46.35.
The button is at seat 2.

push bad hand posts the small blind of $.25.
TimThompson posts the big blind of $.50.

top_kyle: Qs Qh
CRatrun: -- --
grund: -- --
push bad hand: -- --
TimThompson: -- --
Vegas_M: -- --
suwes: -- --
tonya: -- --
evil knight: -- --
maxrebo19: -- --

Pre-flop:

Vegas_M folds. suwes folds. tonya folds. evil
knight folds. maxrebo19 calls. top_kyle raises to
$2. CRatrun folds. grund folds. push bad hand
folds. TimThompson calls. maxrebo19 calls.

Flop (board: 7d 9d 2h):

TimThompson checks. maxrebo19 checks. top_kyle bets
$5.50. TimThompson calls. maxrebo19 folds.

Uh-Oh, maybe he thinks its just a continuation bet?

Turn (board: 7d 9d 2h 9s):

TimThompson checks. top_kyle bets $6. TimThompson
raises to $12.
Now what?

Here are the PT/PokerAce stats on him for 50 or so hands.
VP$IP: 25%
PFR: 10%
TA: 1.82%

[yeltzen]

He has pocket jacks. Call him. Only a dope would call that flop with just top pair.

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by yeltzen

He has pocket jacks. Call him. Only a dope would call that flop with just top pair.

hmmm...check/call on the flop, check/raise on the turn? doesn't that reek of strength? and isn't he just as likely to be donking it up with KK or AA as JJ?

in the moment, i call for sure, but where does that put you on the river? it's not much of a plan.

but i'm not much of a cash game player...

[Poboy]

It looks like he's Semi Loose Aggr. It looks like he'd only have a 9 if he played A9 suited or something like 10 9suited. Any idea what he thinks of you?
He min-raised... I'm tempted to re-raise, but if he pops us back, we lose the chance to see the river. He could be raising for a free showdown, or raising a draw, trying to get you to fold.

I'd call and evaluate the river. This is a situation where you need more of a read than PT can give you.

[hachkc]

Rest of the hand.

top_kyle re-raises to $18.
TimThompson calls.

River (board: 7d 9d 2h 9s Jd):
TimThompson checks. top_kyle checks.

Showdown:
TimThompson shows Th 8h.
TimThompson has Th 8h 7d 9d Jd: straight, jack high.
top_kyle mucks cards.
(top_kyle has Qs Qh.)

$2.65 is raked from a pot of $53.25.
TimThompson wins $50.60 with straight, jack high.

I reraised the turn as I wasn't willing to give up the hand yet. In hindsight, the first mistake was the turn bet on my side was too small, only $6 into a pot of roughly $16-$17. I probably should have gone at least $10 probably closer to $15 or simply checked the turn. The indecision resulted in a smaller than effective bet on my part. My reraise on turn probably should have been more also. The funny part is he got the best possible card he could and didn't bet the river, probably thought I would bet out or maybe he was scared of a boat. I didn't have much of a read on him as he had only shown down 4 hands so far. One these was AA which he raised from the SB so I didn't put it likely that he was slowplaying KK or AA from the BB. I was more afraid of a set but I figured he would have reraised the flop and not waited till the turn.

On a general note, I should just fold QQ from now on. When I win with it, they are small pots but when I lose, they are large pots. Out of my last 8k hands, here are my stats for QQ:

Win%: 66.7%
Net$: -63.60
BB/hand: -2.69
PFR%: 100

Its my 3rd biggest losing hand BB/hand and $ wise.

[Slagar]

Ouch, what are your top two losers?

[hachkc]

Big Losers

BB/hand
=========
1. AQs - Win%: 64, Net$: -33.30, BB/hand: -2.81, PFR%: 68
2. QTs - Win%: 15, Net$: -83.40, BB/hand: -2.67, PFR%: 0

Net$
=========
1. QTs above
2. AJo - Win%: 45%, Net$: -77.50, BB/hand: -0.89, PFR%: 44

[Slagar]

Ouch.

[DDD424]

You probably already know this but in UB, you can check in the hand histories to see the cards that they mucked.

[hachkc]

I know that but they actually have to make it to showdown which doesn't happen if he folds to a bet or bets and isn't called. I use PT which stores this info from the HH.