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Old 07-15-2005, 10:18 AM
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A hand from Tourney #11 to discuss....

Table had played pretty tight with plenty of steals and squashing of steal attempts a somewhat common occurance as well. Deckard26354's raise of $1,111 seemed to be his raise amount for the night at this point as he had raised that maount the last 7-8 times he raised a pot.

I was told calling the last $1,460 was a terrible call. I went to bed running through the numbers and what I was thinking at the time, and I'm sorry to Mr. Deckard26354, but you were out of line. I called $1,460 to win $9,535 - if that makes me an idiot than I guess you truly are a better poker player than I. Criticize the raise, but not the call on the end. There had been plenty of stealing and a good deal of lay-downs to raises of steal attempts - I decided to protect my blind and push you off your hand. I had also decided I was going to start playing very aggressive - I had not played many hands the last 8-10 orbits.

I guess I just didn't appreciate being spoken to like a chump last night for calling your all-in. In hindsight I think you'll see the hand differently, but regardless, I thought it might be a hand to discuss and maybe learn something from.



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (5 handed) converter

MP Lumpy_jr (t7240)
Button Conrad Peril (t9690)
SB scottwire (t8469)
BB Philly14 (t8116)
UTG Deckard26354 (t5485)

Preflop: Philly14 is BB with , .
UTG raises to t1111, 3 folds, Philly14 raises to t4000, UTG raises to t5460, Philly14 calls t1460.

Flop: (t10995) , , (2 players)

Turn: (t10995) (2 players)

River: (t10995) (2 players)

Final Pot: t10995

Results in white below:
Philly14 has 9h Ah (one pair, nines).
UTG has 4c 4s (one pair, fours).
Outcome: Philly14 wins t10995.
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Old 07-15-2005, 10:21 AM
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seems like deck was unhappy about losing a big pot.

questionable reraise, good call at the end.
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I know he was unhappy jojo - just thought he talked down to me a bit - I don't appreciate that - especially in this tourney where we all "know" each other.

Take your losses the same way you take your wins.

I just wish I put his chips to better use....
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i'm not excusing it; i can't stand being spoken to like that either. but i try to see things through the other guy's eyes. otherwise i'd steam too hard.
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The 4k reraise with A9 was a ballsy move, but I think the biggest mistake in that had was UTG reraising you all in for 1500 more with 4s. He should have know he was going to get a call on that raise, and personally I would have been happy with a race in that situation.

He was better off than I was when you busted me with Ks vs 9s Now that was a stupid call on my part.
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My raise was a - "do you have a good enough hand to play for all your chips?" kinda raise. He thought 4's was good enough.

I had decided to turn it up a notch and start playing real aggressive - stinks to have to suck out on someone but that's the way it goes.
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i want hear more about the trash talk!

What was said.. sounds like I missed out on some good stuff...

Maybe if I didn't suck so bad at poker I could see this kind of stuff.
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Trash talk is too strong. Deckard was upset becuse he got knocked out - and because he read me just about right - and it didn't pay off. I don't blame him for being pissed, but the "talk" afterwards was what hit a nerve. Especially when some of the talk was incorrect accusations\claims....

Deck's cool - I'll get over it, as will he.
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stinks to have to suck out on someone but that's the way it goes.
Beating 44 with A9 when you are both all-in preflop isn't much of a suckout.
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seems like deck was unhappy about losing a big pot.

questionable reraise, good call at the end.
That's how I saw it... guess I thought it was an obvious good call so I didn't think much of it other than I was surprised he made the comment (and the reraise).

Still bummed I missed out maybe next week although I'll be at a golf outing that day and might be too primed come 9:30p

Congrats on your finish (you too deck & others nice playin').
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