[Seitz333]

Hi All,

I have created a search page that will let you search/view different stats from all of the Weekly, QTOC, & YTOC ChipTalk Tourneys. I usually update the database every friday. If you would like to see additional info please let me know and I'll see what I can do.

The pages have been updated to include the monday night tourney statistics. I have also added a cross reference list of ChipTalk - PokerStars and Full Tilt names. There is a form you can fill out to submit you screen names. Please let me know if your find any errors.
I have moved the pages to a new location, please update your links.

Enjoy!

Chuck

NEW LINK - http://chiptalk.hilostudios.com

[JM]

What are they going to do, say 'no'? I don't see any downside to asking, though we may want to leave out #4.

I'm pretty certain #3 is correct since you specify to FT the total # of players in the tourney.

[jojobinks]

speak: i'm thinking it over, and i've started a thread in admin to make sure ten sees it and weighs in. if we don't get much more input here, we'll bounce it back off you before we move forward, eh?

tyvm, btw.

[SpeakEasy]

Although I'd never guess that I'd actually have to say this:

#4 is a joke.

Don't play afraid. Since when does the consumer need to be afraid of a service provider? We have paid a lot of rake, more than double what the TOP net tournament winner has won. We bring the business to PS, including unique new users. If they say no, we evaluate options and move on.

[noelsarchs]

Originally Posted by Wedge Rock

2. Do we really want to try to bluff/bully a paid advertiser?

Yes, I would be careful about a paid advertiser. But I'd still send the letter with some tweaks so it makes our case a positive expectation vs a threat of leaving. They make millions of dollars and we are only a small tiny part of those profits.

Asking for the full table is good and asking for a deeper stack is also very good and is not threatening, just our wishes.

That said, if the TOC starts out as two tables anyway, what would be the harm in having the TOC have more people eligible so both tables are a bit more full to start?

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by noelsarchs

That said, if the TOC starts out as two tables anyway, what would be the harm in having the TOC have more people eligible so both tables are a bit more full to start?

the tables wouldn't be fuller. sometimes on thursdays we start with 50 players and go 6 and 7 handed. p* software keeps lots of space open for late registration...it doesn't help any if it's a big tourny.

[Wedge Rock]

Originally Posted by noelsarchs

Yes, I would be careful about a paid advertiser. But I'd still send the letter with some tweaks so it makes our case a positive expectation vs a threat of leaving.

noels got what I mean. I'm not talking about a service provider...I'm talking about a Chiptalk paid-sponsor. Its one thing to beat our chest to Poker Stars... its another when it could affect the income stream of this site.

I think if you approach it as a group of 50 people that meet weekly, its one thing. But if you approach it as a group of 50 Chiptalkers, its a different ballgame. That's what I meant about Moe Greene... he rebuffed the Corleones because he thought he could get a better deal from Barzini... That's why Michael "kept an eye out for him" in the end of the movie...

In any event, it sounds like you are already getting Ten's approval, which should work.

[JM]

Technically I believe that is an affiliate banner and not a paid sponsor.

Originally Posted by Wedge Rock

noels got what I mean. I'm not talking about a service provider...I'm talking about a Chiptalk paid-sponsor. Its one thing to beat our chest to Poker Stars... its another when it could affect the income stream of this site.

I think if you approach it as a group of 50 people that meet weekly, its one thing. But if you approach it as a group of 50 Chiptalkers, its a different ballgame. That's what I meant about Moe Greene... he rebuffed the Corleones because he thought he could get a better deal from Barzini... That's why Michael "kept an eye out for him" in the end of the movie...

In any event, it sounds like you are already getting Ten's approval, which should work.

[Wedge Rock]

Originally Posted by JM

Technically I believe that is an affiliate banner and not a paid sponsor.

I didn't know there was a difference, but yes, one of the companies that pays for the six banners along the bottom...

[JM]

What I'm saying is, I don't believe they PAY for that to be there. Its just an affiliate link for Ten to get some $$ if someone signs up for an account thru the link. So they only pay when someone signs up for a real account, not like they are an active supporter.

[Wedge Rock]

If that's the case (and I don't pretend to know), that is an entirely different situation...